Plasma 5.6.x - when?

[GreyGeek]

Well deserved clivejo! Congrats and thanks for your past and future work to keep Kubuntu the best!

[Snowhog]

Kubuntu Developer badge applied.

Congrats clivejo! Go forth and (continue to) do good things!

[acheron]

Kubuntu Member badge for sure, and imo he does deserve a dev one as well even if it isn't official atm

He is official now.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...er/010786.html

[GreyGeek]

Patience young Padwan! Time levels all hills and fills all valleys.

[acheron]

There is also the small issue of Yakkety Yak, which has it's feature freeze fast approaching!

Unfortunately, the 3 releases (frameworks, plasma and applications), aren't as separate as they appear. There are a number of cross dependencies.

acheron correctly points out that Plasma 5.7.2 depends on Qt5.6.1. This has been our main focus.

However, KDE Applications have thrown us a few problems, especially with KDE PIM (Kontact) which has been restructured into new packages. There are a LOT of changes in the pipeline and we don't release software when there are known issues. Rather than breaking installs or trying to make a release without PIM, it was decided to concentrate on getting PIM fixed and transition to Qt5.6.1

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Thanks for the heads up and that makes a lot of sense now - thanks!
I don't want to jump ship as I still think kubuntu is the best after trying some other distros out.

EDIT: What happened to KDE Applications though? Is something preventing Kubuntu moving to a newer release other than lack of resources?

[acheron]

I'm already using the backports repo and sorry, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. Kubuntu has turned into the Samsung of Linux Distros where updates to KDE come few and far between while efforts are focused elsewhere.
If there really isn't anyone available to maintain the current release then maybe people should stop and start thinking about the future of this distro.

Please have a little patience. It is in the pipeline.

Or as said, there are other options.

As has been suggested, it's not as simple for this release as it might be for others.

- Qt 5.6.x did not make it into the main Xenial archive as Qt release was delayed several times IIRC. Hence Xenial has 5.5.1 and stuck with that.
- Plasma 5.7.x requires Qt 5.6.1 as a minimum
- So to do plasma 5.7.x for Xenial Qt 5.6.1 needs to be backported in a ppa, FW/plasma/Apps built, and then a LOT of testing.
- New QT private ABI causes some breakages on non KDE stuff!

(I have been doing the Qt backport )

Neon et al have been able to just do that, and under their project remit not be overly bothered if their new packages/QT cause breakages on non KDE packages. Or even on some KDE ones, as they doesn't quite do the full set yet.

kubuntu has to have a mind to the rest of the archive and it's installability. Can't just fling our new stuff in a backports ppa and hope for the best.

kubuntu is certainly welcoming volunteers. See the contribute and packaging 'Dojo' link I posted earlier.

That is my explanation, and not an official one ^^^.

[acheron]

Qt 5.6.1 official build into the Yakkety main archive today

Lets see if that breaks clivejo's shiny plasma 5.7.2!

(should not do I hope!)

[Snowhog]

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[claydoh]

A 'developer'? Does he warrant a KFN badge?

Kubuntu Member badge for sure, and imo he does deserve a dev one as well even if it isn't official atm

[Snowhog]

clivejo, who let you out of your cell? Ain't you supposed to be packaging or sumpin?

A 'developer'? Does he warrant a KFN badge?

You fooled me with the cookies last time! Not falling for that again.

[acheron]

shhhhh don't tell anyone I escaped from the Developers Dungeon, please don't make me go back!

Ah. There you are. You didn't get far.

Come back with me. We have cookies.

clivejo, who let you out of your cell? Ain't you supposed to be packaging or sumpin?

shhhhh don't tell anyone I escaped from the Developers Dungeon, please don't make me go back!