Wifi Blues

[GreyGeek]

well this talk of 5G wireless made me remember that I have that ,,,,,,my ISP (TWC) has me set with 2 wireless connections to my router 1-2.5G and 1-5G ,,,,,I have always used the 2.5G as thats the one the installation Technician had me setup the way I liked .

I can go to their web page to my acct. settings and it will display the wireless passwords so I just got the one for the5G and connected to it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dang I should have done this before ,,,I'm getting 56.9 Mbps DL and 5.88 UP

VINNY

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What are you paying for you Internet connection to give you that kind of speed?
Spoil the rest of my day, VINNY, and tell me that Spectrum (TWC) gives you IPv6 as well.

[GreyGeek]

I suspect that Oderus is referring to the 5 GHz band wireless LAN, been official since 2009, not the 5G WAN, due out in 2020.

Please excuse me if I'm confused.

John Little

You're probably right. I refer to the 5GHz service as 802.11n, which tops out between 50Mbps and 150Mbps, theoretical and advertising considerations aside. My TWC connection is 25Mbps, so i use 802.11g, which maxes out at 54Mbps. My ethernet cable is 100Mbps, which is 4X faster than what TWC supplies me. I never refer to 802.11n 5Ghz bandwidth as 5G.

[Oderus]

well this talk of 5G wireless made me remember that I have that ,,,,,,my ISP (TWC) has me set with 2 wireless connections to my router 1-2.5G and 1-5G ,,,,,I have always used the 2.5G as thats the one the installation Technician had me setup the way I liked .

I can go to their web page to my acct. settings and it will display the wireless passwords so I just got the one for the5G and connected to it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dang I should have done this before ,,,I'm getting 56.9 Mbps DL and 5.88 UP

VINNY

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very nice yes that's why I would like to get mine working! Works great on my phone but not desktop

[vinnywright]

well this talk of 5G wireless made me remember that I have that ,,,,,,my ISP (TWC) has me set with 2 wireless connections to my router 1-2.5G and 1-5G ,,,,,I have always used the 2.5G as thats the one the installation Technician had me setup the way I liked .

I can go to their web page to my acct. settings and it will display the wireless passwords so I just got the one for the5G and connected to it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dang I should have done this before ,,,I'm getting 56.9 Mbps DL and 5.88 UP

VINNY

[Oderus]

I suspect that Oderus is referring to the 5 GHz band wireless LAN, been official since 2009, not the 5G WAN, due out in 2020.

Please excuse me if I'm confused.

John Little

Most likely, it's home internet with a router that has a 5G nertwork and a regular network with options for both. I can choose between the two. My tablets and phones love the 5G but my PC is not liking it

[jlittle]

I suspect that Oderus is referring to the 5 GHz band wireless LAN, been official since 2009, not the 5G WAN, due out in 2020.

Please excuse me if I'm confused.

John Little

[Oderus]

Your router manufacturer and Google are offering 5G capable devices based on their OWN standards, since a universal definition of the 5G protocol hasn't been negotiated yet. They are using their marketshare muscle to force development their way. 5G has been given the low end of the rf spectrum. Transmitters and receivers at that end must have larger antennas, like CB needed. Their transmission power will have to be kept low to avoid "skip", a phenomenon I regularly used when I was using amateur radio. With a 60 watt continuous wave transmitter I could deliver a 5 by 9 signal in Japan, using a 15' cubical quad antenna.

Using 250 mw transmissions a 5G modem is going to need a lot more cell towers, especially during the day when sun light suppresses the ionosphere. If the xmitter power is jacked up to increase the range it will shorten battery life considerably. I don't see 5G replacing 4G LTE any time soon except in limited applications.

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Ahh ok. Thank you so much for the great information!

[GreyGeek]

Oh ok yes it does come and go so makes sense. The router I have offers standard and 5G at the same time. my android devices connect to and use the 5G no problem. Its ok I am good with standard wifi for my pc that is now stable. thank you so much.

Your router manufacturer and Google are offering 5G capable devices based on their OWN standards, since a universal definition of the 5G protocol hasn't been negotiated yet. They are using their marketshare muscle to force development their way. 5G has been given the low end of the rf spectrum. Transmitters and receivers at that end must have larger antennas, like CB needed. Their transmission power will have to be kept low to avoid "skip", a phenomenon I regularly used when I was using amateur radio. With a 60 watt continuous wave transmitter I could deliver a 5 by 9 signal in Japan, using a 15' cubical quad antenna.

Using 250 mw transmissions a 5G modem is going to need a lot more cell towers, especially during the day when sun light suppresses the ionosphere. If the xmitter power is jacked up to increase the range it will shorten battery life considerably. I don't see 5G replacing 4G LTE any time soon except in limited applications.


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[Oderus]

5G is a whole other kettle of fish. General deployment is set for 2020.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/what-i...n-do-i-get-it/

"First, there’s some fleshing out to do. “There is a formal process where 5G is defined, and that is the next step,” says Jan Dawson, chief analyst at Jackdaw Research. Only then can companies start rolling it out to the masses, and there’s a long way to go."

That info is only a month old. What vendor is claiming to give you 5G? Are they faking it? IF you are getting any connection at all it is probably due to harmonics, which come and go.

Oh ok yes it does come and go so makes sense. The router I have offers standard and 5G at the same time. my android devices connect to and use the 5G no problem. Its ok I am good with standard wifi for my pc that is now stable. thank you so much.

[GreyGeek]

5G is a whole other kettle of fish. General deployment is set for 2020.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/what-i...n-do-i-get-it/

"First, there’s some fleshing out to do. “There is a formal process where 5G is defined, and that is the next step,” says Jan Dawson, chief analyst at Jackdaw Research. Only then can companies start rolling it out to the masses, and there’s a long way to go."

That info is only a month old. What vendor is claiming to give you 5G? Are they faking it? IF you are getting any connection at all it is probably due to harmonics, which come and go.

[Oderus]

I noticed that the default for the msi param is 1. Try setting it to 0

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Well I was starting to get quite discouraged but this worked!! Thank you so much. One last question, the 5G sometimes doesn't connect or won't. Sometimes it does. Signal strength is 100%. Any ideas at all? Thanks for your time and for helping to solve this!

[GreyGeek]

I noticed that the default for the msi param is 1. Try setting it to 0


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[Oderus]

The file didn't exist, I did as stated above. Thanks for explaining it's appreciated. Internet still cuts out with the upload on Dropbox above 20kb/s, and it also does the same when uploading from firefox so it may be any upload at all or i'm not sure. When I try to connect to my 5G network it hangs and eventually fails on getting netword address. Thanks again.

Update: I installed rtlwifi_new-master.zip from github and I can connect to 5G networks now, howver both networks still disconnect if i'm uploading.

[Oderus]

We're all ignorant ... some in one thing and some in another.

If rtl8821ae.conf does not exist in /etc/modprobe.d then use kate to create it.
In a Konsole enter:
kdesudo kate
Open a new file. In it enter the folllowing:
options rtl8821ae ips=0 swenc=0

Now save the file in /etc/modprobe.d/
so that you have
/etc/modprobe.d/rtl8821ae.conf
and it contains the option line.
You can add or remove param options and/or play with their values. To see the params use "modinfo whatever.ko"

After you make a change then flush the ip and restart networking services using the method shown here: http://www.configserverfirewall.com/...ork-interface/

The file didn't exist, I did as stated above. Thanks for explaining it's appreciated. Internet still cuts out with the upload on Dropbox above 20kb/s, and it also does the same when uploading from firefox so it may be any upload at all or i'm not sure. When I try to connect to my 5G network it hangs and eventually fails on getting netword address. Thanks again.

[GreyGeek]

I'm not entirely sure how to do this What file do I edit Sorry for my ignorance

We're all ignorant ... some in one thing and some in another.

If rtl8821ae.conf does not exist in /etc/modprobe.d then use kate to create it.
In a Konsole enter:
kdesudo kate
Open a new file. In it enter the folllowing:
options rtl8821ae ips=0 swenc=0

Now save the file in /etc/modprobe.d/
so that you have
/etc/modprobe.d/rtl8821ae.conf
and it contains the option line.
You can add or remove param options and/or play with their values. To see the params use "modinfo whatever.ko"

After you make a change then flush the ip and restart networking services using the method shown here: http://www.configserverfirewall.com/...ork-interface/