Do You Agree That Kubuntu Should be Renamed - If So, What Name?

[NoWorries]

I am not sure that a name with 3 words is appropriate, let alone a sentence to rename Kubuntu.

After all, the Africans seem to be more sophisticated in that, as I understand it, the phrase: 'I am what I am because of who we all are' means ubuntu. Is there some other language where there is a single word to encapsulate your phrases 'one desk elect.' or 'moving glittering undertaking'.

Thanks for spending time to find an alternative name.

[woodsmoke]

how about:

Klatou Deklado Elekto

which, in medieval scientific latin means:

one desk elect.

or Kinemetic Diamante Emprise

or

moving glittering undertaking


woodsmoke

[NoWorries]

Please move on, stop bashing Ubuntu/Canonical.

If we are bashing Canonical, then evidence of what "outsiders" think can be found in this comparison of openSUSE 13.1 vs Ubuntu 13.10: a friendly match. I think this comparison was using OpenSUSE's KDE desktop versus Ubuntu's Unity desktop. Naturally SUSE got more points than Ubuntu, ie 8 for OpenSUSE 13.1 to 4 for Ubuntu 13.10.

In this comparison the comment is made

Canonical has strained relationship with Debian in the early days, they have stained relationship with Gnome, Banshee, KDE, Xorg (Wayland), FSF and lately EFF also joined this list.

Except for the Dash online integration I don’t remember any incident when anyone from the open source community attacked Canonical or Ubuntu. It was always an attack from Canonical – whether it was the email sent to openSUSE developers after the Microsoft deal, or ‘pissing’ on Wayland, demanding more cut from Banshee, assault on SystemD, assault on Red Hat, pricking KDE developers or belief that since Intel is now a competitor of Ubuntu (due to Tizen), they did not accept XMir patches.

All of this takes Ubuntu/Canonical further from the open source community and alienates them – no wonder why no one from the open source community came forward to endorse Ubuntu Edge.

These issueshave already been made on this forum and it is because of these issues, I started this post. Time will tell if SABDFL's decisions succeed or not. I continue to hope that we move forward and that a renamed "Kubuntu" is more readily chosen for reviews and comparisons.

[oshunluvr]

Geez, he acted like you guys were talking about his mother. Last time I checked, KFN didn't support that sort of censorship.

[SteveRiley]

A drive-by shooting?

Yes, unfortunately:

[GreyGeek]

Rick Spencer and Jono Bacon, very senior Canonical employees, have just confirmed to me in a UDS session that the Ubuntu flavours are and always will be part of the Ubuntu community. Why all the talk about a new name?

Sadly I will now to resign from these forums. I'll be reporting my post to the admin/moderator team so that my account can be disabled. I'm very disappointed with the views of many of the forum members here. I really don't know why some of you are here.

Please move on, stop bashing Ubuntu/Canonical.

A drive-by shooting?

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...ry/005782.html

Today I bring the disappointing news that Canonical will no longer be
funding my work on Kubuntu after 12.04. Canonical wants to treat
Kubuntu in the same way as the other community flavors such as
Edubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xubuntu, and support the projects with
infrastructure. This is a big challenge to Kubuntu of course and KDE
as well.

The practical changes are I won't be able to work on KDE bits in my
work time after 12.04 and there won't be paid support for versions
after 12.04. This is a rational business decision, Kubuntu has not
been a business success after 7 years of trying, and it is unrealistic
to expect it to continue to have financial resources put into it.

Well, Kubuntu doesn't need Canonical's approval to base itself off of Ubuntu, and when Canonical stopped funding Kubuntu it was left to sink or swim by itself. So, if that's what "being treated like other community flavors" means then you will have to define what "being part of the Ubuntu community" means. As far as not being a "business success after 7 years", one could make the same statement about Ubuntu for the last 9 years.

So, FMPOV, after Canonical cut Kubuntu loose, Kubuntu has no obligation to behave as if it were still a sheep in Canonical's fold, dependent on it for protection and sustenance. We can thank and appreciate Blue System for picking up Kubuntu.

Your drive-by still didn't answer the question as to what Kubuntu will have to do if Ubuntu+Unity+Mir goes so far out on that limb (or island) that Modifying KDE and/or Ubuntu to allow KDE to sit on top of Ubuntu would be more work than it is worth and another distro as a base would offer more benefits.

[SteveRiley]

Years ago someone extracted the overriding colour from all pictures he found on the net and the average colour was... the human skin

Human skin manifests itself in a plethora of colors -- it's difficult to conceive of an average here.

[NoWorries]

Rick Spencer and Jono Bacon, very senior Canonical employees, have just confirmed to me in a UDS session that the Ubuntu flavours are and always will be part of the Ubuntu community. Why all the talk about a new name?

I cannot see why a new name is not possible as I believe that it could lead to an increase in market acceptance for Kubuntu. An example of a distribution that uses ubuntu repositories but does not have ubuntu in its name is Linux Mint. I did a quick search for those distributions that did use ubuntu repositories and I found a VERY LONG list here. The number that have ubuntu as part of their name is in the minority. I am still concerned that as Canonical pursue their Mir/Unity integration that we will have problems using some of their ppa's as Wayland is incorporated into KDE.

Sadly I will now to resign from these forums. I'll be reporting my post to the admin/moderator team so that my account can be disabled. I'm very disappointed with the views of many of the forum members here. I really don't know why some of you are here.

Please move on, stop bashing Ubuntu/Canonical.

When you are confronted with something unexpected, it always pays to pause a while before taking any drastic action. I for one would be very disappointed if you decided to leave because of this issue. From the references in my post that started this topic, there was a lot of bashing coming from Canonical and I have not intentionally "bashed" Canonical but I have criticised the path that they have taken. I believe, like others, that the actions Canonical have taken divide the community. Please Don't Leave.

[SteveRiley]

Rick Spencer and Jono Bacon, very senior Canonical employees, have just confirmed to me in a UDS session that the Ubuntu flavours are and always will be part of the Ubuntu community. Why all the talk about a new name?

I would offer that discussion of a new name is more of a symptom of broader feelings of abandonment. Yes, the flavors contribute much to *buntu and Canonical. But Canonical appears to be distancing itself from what is traditionally considered to be a Linux distribution. Such movement will only increase the difficulty of remaining a flavor over time.

Sadly I will now to resign from these forums. I'll be reporting my post to the admin/moderator team so that my account can be disabled. I'm very disappointed with the views of many of the forum members here. I really don't know why some of you are here.

Just because you disagree with some our members doesn't mean you need to leave KFN. I emailed you privately to ask if this is really what you wish. We are always sad to see a member depart.

[sithlord48]

does this mean i have to reopen my G+ account ?

Rick Spencer and Jono Bacon, very senior Canonical employees, have just confirmed to me in a UDS session that the Ubuntu flavours are and always will be part of the Ubuntu community. Why all the talk about a new name?

Sadly I will now to resign from these forums. I'll be reporting my post to the admin/moderator team so that my account can be disabled. I'm very disappointed with the views of many of the forum members here. I really don't know why some of you are here.

Please move on, stop bashing Ubuntu/Canonical.

[Teunis]

Or we could go the way football teams do with their stadiums, name them after their sponsor.
Something like (Blue)Shell, Coke or Mountain Dew maybe?

Years ago someone extracted the overriding colour from all pictures he found on the net and the average colour was... the human skin
I don't think the net has changed much so a logical sponsor might be a porn peddler

[Simon]

Random Thoughts...

Well I guess you could go with only a complex logo, like that musician did years ago, where you couldn't actually "pronounce" the name. Funny thing was that kind of backfired, since all the radio DJs started calling him "The musician formerly known as...". That would be silly to call it "The OS formerly known as Kubuntu."

As I stated before the name really shouldn't be attached to the OS and could simply be Kos or Kosy and whatnot. I was bored and decided to take off my doctor's cap and toss on my marketing and promotions cap. IF I actually had a say in the renaming of this IDE/OS hybrid and it was not just a hypothetical situation, I would submit the following per release naming;

KDE + Debian

"K Toy" - Now a lot of you might think this is degrading and calling the OS a toy, but as you know Debian gets the release names from "Toy Story". This might not be a good idea for a business model.
"K Magic" - This referes to the Debian "magical smoke" logo.
Finally I gave some thought about "K Deb" but leaves Ian out in the cold and his wife in charge, that wouldn't be any more P.C. to call it "K Ian".

KDE + Red Hat

One might think that combining a Red Hat with a Blue K might make something like a Purple Hat... well there is a group of elderly women in a tea social called that. In fact, I don't comprehend Red Hat since that generates images of the Red Hat Society... which is another tea social. I pondered this one and came up with images of breakfast cereals and department stores... not that I would want to attach that to an operating system either.

KDE + Slackware

Naming convention on this one is a lot more simple than the prior. First you are dealing with a humorously named OS thus making the renaming much easier.
"K Ware" - "Kool Ware" - "Klacks"

Well I guess I will take off my marketing and promotions cap now and put on the sleepy time cap.

[GreyGeek]

Okay, let's plan on planning to have a pre-meeting meeting to develop a set of pre-development development concepts. Let's all meet on Tuesday to set a meeting date.

On google hangout!

[Teunis]

True about the Konsonants.
What about Magic, Millennium, Helsinki (where Linus was born) or Karate (Linus' wife was a national champion)?
Talking about magic, what about REISUB