Muon updater borked install

[woodsmoke]

Hi
There was a massive update, it looked as if it was every app in the OS and the system itself, on this date.

I allowed Muon updater to do it and the 40/12 gig HD which was the object of discussion in another thread, after a restart, then displayed the login screen and when I logged in that was it. The splash screen for the login screen was there and the mouse moved but absolutely nothing happened.

So, I formatted that one and tried another hard drive thinking maybe it was the drive.

I did another 40 gig, which had a 40 gig install.

I added absolutely nothing to the install just did the update.

Again, after a restart, I got the login screen but after I logged in got only the background and the mouse, nothing worked.

So, if anyone has comments, this may be the same problem with earlier releases and the Muon updater, I imagine that folks would appreciate reading them.

I'm going to install again and try sudo apt-get update or maybe use synaptic.

woodsmoke

[Snowhog]

I put no blame on Muon, especially given that it's being used on an 'alpha' stage release. As the caveat goes, "Breakage is to be expected."

[woodsmoke]

thanks for the reply snowhog, I agree no "blame" because breakage is expected.

I tried sudo apt-get update with no results.

I tried sudo apt-get upgrade and got an upgrade that included a lot of things, so I assume the same as Muon presented.

It did work.

woodsmoke

[Snowhog]

I won't say that Muon is "perfect", as I don't believe any GUI Package Manager is, and, I don't use it (or any other GUI Package Manager) to perform actual package management. I am purely a CLI guy in that respect, using sudo apt-get. I have never been let down using it.

[claydoh]

In the alpha stages, I always recommend using apt for updating (dist-upgrade) as it clearly tells you if something is missing, or if an improperly configured or not-yet built package will cause something to be uninstalled that might be important.

Posting the output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade can allow advice to be given if one is not sure before allowing the update to proceed.

dist-upgrade is used instead of regular upgrade as the latter only will update existing packages on your system. Dist-upgrade will do that as well as install any required new packages.

You can use muon , the package manager to update as well, it allows one to see what is going to be added/removed from there like synaptic.

[woodsmoke]

sudo apt-get upgrade worked fine.

woodsmoke

[claydoh]

sudo apt-get upgrade worked fine.

woodsmoke

That will work fine, but you will not get any new kernel or any new software an updated package may need.

[vw72]

thanks for the reply snowhog, I agree no "blame" because breakage is expected.

I tried sudo apt-get update with no results.

I tried sudo apt-get upgrade and got an upgrade that included a lot of things, so I assume the same as Muon presented.

It did work.

woodsmoke

Sounds like you ended up upgrading to 12.04.01 and something didn't install or wasn't ready/got held back. It could have been Muon or more likely, the repository you were pulling from hadn't fully synch (a lot of people were complaining about servers being down, too). By the time you re-did all of this the repository was back in synch and things worked. I would bet that if you put the old drive back and from the command line tell it to do the upgrade, or better yet dist-upgrade, it will work, too.

[claydoh]

Sounds like you ended up upgrading to 12.04.01

This is the 12.10 thread

[vw72]

This is the 12.10 thread

Oops, so it is!, my mistake. Same problem can occur, though, even in testing if the repository isn't fully updated when one updates. Might be even more likely on the betas.

[claydoh]

Oops, so it is!, my mistake. Same problem can occur, though, even in testing if the repository isn't fully updated when one updates. Might be even more likely on the betas.

Much more likely, actually