Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

[Fintan]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade

After todays update I get the following issues:

- At desktop loading I get this pop up 3x:

Password kdesudo-Please menter your password to use this device

I remember having this a while ago on a different alph but can't remember how I got rid of it. renaming .kde does not help.

- Klipper crashes plasma without fail

Anyone else?

[3vi1]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade

I don't use Klipper, but I can believe it: right-clicking on ktorrent will crash plasma if the system has been up for any amount of time.

I have not seen the kdesudo issue.... I'm suprised that renaming .kde didn't make it go away.

BTW: Druid's fix didn't work for me: It just left me with an always default-wallpaper desktop with no widgets. So, I re-enabled activities. Also, the memory bug seems to re-appear every other reboot... sometimes 3-4GB of RAM is just eaten by the system at startup. :\

[3vi1]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade

+ Looks like they fixed all of the KDE desktop session saving issues in todays update!

- Looks like they broke sound horribly in the last two kernels... I'm getting tons of stuttering now.

[Fintan]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

I updated the title to reflect todays issue:

........Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
Status-Informationen einlesen... Fertig
Berechne Upgrade (Paketaktualisierung) ...Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
akonadi-kde-resource-googledata akregator amarok apport-kde apturl-kde ark
blogilo dolphin dragonplayer gdebi-kde gwenview install-package jockey-kde
k3b kaddressbook kanagram kate kbluetooth kcalc kde-window-manager
kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources
kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdesudo kdiamond kdm
kfind khelpcenter4 kinfocenter klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmines kmix
kmousetool kmplayer knm-runtime knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole
kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpackagekit kpat kppp
krdc kreversi krfb ksnapshot ksudoku ksysguard ksystemlog ktimetracker
ktorrent ktouch kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-desktop
kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts
kubuntu-notification-helper kvkbd kwalletmanager language-selector-qt
libkdepim4 libkdewebkit5 libkopete4 libkwineffects1a libkworkspace4
libmessagelist4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4b libplasmagenericshell4
libweather-ion4a lskat network-manager-kde okular openoffice.org-kde parley
plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace
plasma-dataengines-yawp plasma-desktop plasma-netbook
plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel
plasma-widget-kubuntu-feedback plasma-widget-lancelot
plasma-widget-message-indicator plasma-widget-quickaccess plasma-widget-yawp
plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 printer-applet
python-kde4 quassel rekonq software-properties-kde system-config-printer-kde
systemsettings ubufox update-manager-kde usb-creator-kde userconfig
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert:
binutils kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkde3support4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5
libkdnssd4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkimproxy4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4
libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkparts4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libktexteditor4
libkunitconversion4 libkutils4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libpci3
libsolid4 libthreadweaver4 libxfont1 linux-libc-dev pciutils
38 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 119 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 16.4MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 255MB Plattenplatz freigegeben.
Möchten Sie fortfahren [J/n]?

As you can see it wants to remove KDE completely (well, more than less) om my machine.

[timek718]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

The upgrade from KDE SC 4.5 RC1 to RC2 is in process. Consequently, RC1 packages can be upgraded to RC2 but not all RC1 packages can be upgraded at this time. Ideally you should wait until all the RC1 packages have their RC2 equivalents available. Otherwise, annoyances ensue.

YMMV, I have found that waiting a day or two is sufficient. If many packages (70+) are to be upgraded & none to be held back & none to removed (or at worst 2 or 3**), then it is probably safe to upgrade. Also if for some reason you upgrade then, and KDE won't start, you can boot to the command line with networking and run apt-get, assuming that you are not using a wireless internet connection.

** Look and see if packages similar to the ones being removed are to be installed.

[Fintan]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

I learned that the hard way long ago

I just wanted to warn people.

Funny that kde4.5 rc2 updates on lucid just fine

[timek718]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

I learned that the hard way long ago

I just wanted to warn people.

Funny that kde4.5 rc2 updates on lucid just fine

I think this is one of those things that almost everyone learns the hardway. BTW, why does learning from experience always seem to mean learning from bad experiences?

[blackpaw]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

Seems to be good now, I did an upgrade on a 10.10 VM that didn't remove anything.

Somewhat annoyingly, konqueror remains at RC1

[Fintan]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

I think this is one of those things that almost everyone learns the hardway. Wink BTW, why does learning from experience always seem to mean learning from bad experiences?

Wow, philosophical
Maybe it is because bad experiences make one think more (at least they should).

@Blackpaw: I am updating now, but they are different updates than yesterday. Hmm... will wait & see

Edit:

fintanmaveric@fintanws2:~$ kde4-config --version
Qt: 4.7.0
KDE: 4.4.92 (KDE 4.4.92 (KDE 4.5 RC2))
kde4-config: 1.0
fintanmaveric@fintanws2:~$

Yes Konqueror is RC1 but the default browser is now called rekonq (webkit based) and pretty neat

[blackpaw]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

Yes Konqueror is RC1 but the default browser is now called rekonq (webkit based) and pretty neat

I like rekonq but I prefer konqueror and currently all QT 4.7 webkit based browsers have big problems with flash on 64bit

That might be fixed for the latest RC of course.

[blackpaw]

Re: Beware of today's upgrade will kill kde

It appears the latest updates have brought konqueror up to RC2 as well. I'm a happy camper, no real bugs now for me. Kontact & Konqueror are working really smoothly, I find the 4.5 interface to be even slicker, a real pleasure to use.

I've replaced Amarok with Clementine and am much happier with that as well.