[SOLVED] GIMP update problem ...

[GreyGeek]

I've been using gimp regularly with no problems. After the update a couple days ago I opened a jpg file with gimp and discovered that I couldn't edit the file. The jpg file permissions were set to allow editing but gimp would not allow me to do so.

I found that the menu item in gimp was set to run "gimp-2.6 %U". When I changed it to the link "gimp %U" I was able to edit my files again.

[Yuri sss]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

Certainly shouldn't be that way. I'm using the latest version 2.6.10 installed from a ppa, and it still launches with "gimp-2.6 %U". No problems whatsoever here.

[ubuntuku]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

That's weird mine also set to "gimp-2.6 %U" but have no problem editing files. The "gimp" in /usr/bin is just a symlink point to gimp-2.6.

ubuntuku@satellite:/usr/bin$ ls -l gimp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2010-08-12 12:36 gimp -> gimp-2.6

[dibl]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

root@sidbox:/home/dibl# apt-cache policy gimp
gimp:
 Installed: 2.7.2~git20100630
 Candidate: 2.7.2~git20100630
 Version table:
 *** 2.7.2~git20100630 0
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
   2.6.10-1 0
    500 [url]http://ftp.us.debian.org[/url] sid/main Packages

No problems editing with gimp on my Debian system. However they recently changed "Save As" a lot -- it now insists on saving only in its native .xcf file format. If you need other formats, you must File > Export and do it that way. But it's still fully functional as far as I can tell, in opening and editing many file formats.

EDIT: I installed gimp and checked it on my 10.10 system

dibl@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache policy gimp
gimp:
Installed: 2.6.10-1ubuntu2
Candidate: 2.6.10-1ubuntu2
Version table:
*** 2.6.10-1ubuntu2 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I opened a .jpg image, copied a rectangular piece of it, resized it, and saved it as a .png. No problem. I did notice that this version of gimp still allows "Save As" and pick a file format. So the transition on that feature happened between this version in the *buntu repo and the one above that's in debian.

[Yuri sss]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

I opened a .jpg image, copied a rectangular piece of it, resized it, and saved it as a .png. No problem. I did notice that this version of gimp still allows "Save As" and pick a file format. So the transition on that feature happened between this version in the *buntu repo and the one above that's in debian.

The changed "Save As" behaviour is probably introduced in the new Gimp 2.7 beta version currently in git.

[GreyGeek]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

After a little more experimenting I've found that I can set the menu to run as either "gimp" or "gimp-2.6" if I check the box on the Advanced tab of the Menu editor for gimp that says "run as different user" but leave the name of the user blank. AND, it doesn't ask me for the root password. If I don't set that check box and point the menu to gimp-2.6 I cannot edit a graphic. If I don't set that check box and point the menu to gimp I am asked for the root password which, of course, allows me to edit a graphic. Strange.

[Snowhog]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

Well, here, I have no problem with Gimp, and the K Menu entry points to gimp-2.6 %U. I can open and edit any supported image file, .jpg included, with no problem.

KDE 4.4.5
GIMP 2.6.8 (package 2.6.8-2ubuntu1.1)

[kubicle]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

After a little more experimenting I've found that I can set the menu to run as either "gimp" or "gimp-2.6" if I check the box on the Advanced tab of the Menu editor for gimp that says "run as different user" but leave the name of the user blank.

If you don't define a username for "run as different user", it defaults to root (at least it should)

AND, it doesn't ask me for the root password.

Perhaps your password was remembered because sudo timeout hadn't expired?

If I don't set that check box and point the menu to gimp-2.6 I cannot edit a graphic. If I don't set that check box and point the menu to gimp I am asked for the root password which, of course, allows me to edit a graphic. Strange.

1. Have you checked the ownership of your graphic files (I noticed you checked permissions)?
(that might explain why you can only edit files "as root")

2. As far as the difference between gimp and gimp-2.6, seems to me that when you run "gimp-2.6" it starts with your user UID, and "gimp" starts with root UID (since it asks for a password), have you tried with explicit paths (/usr/bin/gimp, /usr/bin/gimp-2.6)?.

Possible explanations to this could be that you have an alias for "gimp" or there is "gimp" executable in your $PATH prior to /usr/bin/gimp, which starts gimp as root. What does the command "which gimp gimp-2.6" output?

[Snowhog]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

What does the command "which gimp gimp-2.6" output?

Here:

paul@mybrainonlinux:~$ which gimp gimp-2.6
/usr/bin/gimp
/usr/bin/gimp-2.6
paul@mybrainonlinux:~$ ls -la /usr/bin/gimp*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    8 2010-08-01 04:51 [color=teal]/usr/bin/gimp[/color] -> [color=green]gimp-2.6[/color]
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4341604 2010-04-28 21:45 [color=green]/usr/bin/gimp-2.6[/color]
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 2010-08-01 04:51 [color=teal]/usr/bin/gimp-console[/color] -> [color=green]gimp-console-2.6[/color]
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2131948 2010-04-28 21:45 [color=green]/usr/bin/gimp-console-2.6[/color]
paul@mybrainonlinux:~$

[GreyGeek]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

My listings for which and ls are identical to Snowhog's.

When I use /usr/bin/gimp-2.6 %U and uncheck the "run as different user" on the advanced tab of the Menu editor, I am back to the original problem. Gimp is running as me, but when I open any graphic image I own I cannot edit it.

And, if I open Gimp first and then open the file dialog, I cannot change directories or scroll the listing in the directory it opened by default.

And, you were right about sudo and timing. When I waited for 10 minutes I was asked for my account password. I also noticed that when I run Gimp as it was configured by default (can't edit my graphics) the dialogs have the current theme. When I have"run as different user" check the dialogs are not in theme, but appear to be gtk-like.

When I check "run as different user" and put my name into the text box it has th gtk appearance. But, when I open a dialog I can, at least, scroll up and down IN the directory it opens into and choose a graphic image from that directory, but I cannot change directories in the left panel or at the location bar. When I open an image I cannot edit it.

[Snowhog]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

I'd be checking the ownership on your .gimp-2.6 directory and it's contents. This is beginning to sound like that folder and it's contents have been changed from you to root.

[GreyGeek]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

Already did that.
/usr is root:root
/usr/bin is root:root
Gimp, gimp-2.6 and their "console" auxillary files are root:root.
They all have execute permission for owner, group and others.

There are no alternative gimp files in /etc/alternatives

All my graphic files are jerry:jerry and I have rw permission.

[Snowhog]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

Yes, but what about the hidden directory and it's contents: .gimp-2.6

[GreyGeek]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

That's weird mine also set to "gimp-2.6 %U" but have no problem editing files. The "gimp" in /usr/bin is just a symlink point to gimp-2.6.

ubuntuku@satellite:/usr/bin$ ls -l gimp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2010-08-12 12:36 gimp -> gimp-2.6

Same as mine. Weird indeed.

[GreyGeek]

Re: [HEADS UP] GIMP update problem ...

Yes, but what about the hidden directory and it's contents: .gimp-2.6

ALL owned by jerry:jerry, with rw permissions on all the config files and rwx on all the directories.

BUT, I renamed ~/.gimp-2.6 to ~/.gimp-2.6-old and restarted gimp using the default menu entry. That FIXED things. I can now edit my files as me. I am going to do an autopsy and compare the files in the old and current hidden file to see what changed.

Thanks for that suggestion, I had totally forgotten about the possibility that gimp had a hidden config directory.