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    Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

    Have just installed Kubuntu 10.04LTS on an old Toshiba Tecra8200 (previously running Windows XP Pro):

    Processor: Intel Pentium III 1 GHz
    Installed Memory: 256 MB (SDRAM)
    Display: 14.1 in
    Hard Drive: 20 GB

    Installation went OK and runs as expected. Problem is, the desktop screen does not fit the available screen area. There's about a 3cm black border around the desktop.

    Have gone into the BIOS settings, have changed the 'display setting: 'LCD Display Stretch' to 'enabled'.

    Saved the changes to the system settings and confirmed this, but when the laptop reboots the problem remains.

    Any ideas?

    #2
    Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

    That computer's memory capacity is pretty low -- probably it's going to swap (I hope you made a swap partition).

    OK, to the point, in a terminal issue
    Code:
    lspci -v
    and let's see what the graphics chip is.

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      #3
      Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

      Hi, thanks for getting back to me.

      Yes, could do with a bit more RAM, I've found the most it will take is 512MB. Looking to upgrade it to this, soon.

      No, didn't make a swap partition. Should I have? I'm pretty new to all this. (Saying that, I've been running Kubuntu for nearly two years now. Other machine is a:

      Toshiba Satellite Pro A120 laptop.
      2Ghz Processor
      2GB RAM
      HD 100GB

      It goes like a rocket in comparison! Still, getting the Tecra up and running is more of an experiment.

      So getting back to the swap partition, if it means a re-install no problem, it's all good practice!

      Still find command line 'baffling' but interesting, but anyway...

      Went into Terminal and entered lspci -v. The result is listed below:

      als@als-laptop:~$ lspci -v
      00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
      Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
      Capabilities: <access denied>
      Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
      Kernel modules: intel-agp

      00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 11)
      Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64
      Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
      Memory behind bridge: f7f00000-fdffffff
      Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 1c000000-1c0fffff
      Kernel modules: shpchp

      00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03)
      Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
      Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=0e, sec-latency=64
      I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
      Memory behind bridge: f7d00000-f7dfffff
      Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 10000000-1bffffff
      Kernel modules: shpchp

      00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
      Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt, intel-rng

      00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master])
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
      [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size= 8]
      [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size= 1]
      [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size= 8]
      [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size= 1]
      I/O ports at cff0 [size= 16]
      Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

      00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
      I/O ports at cf80 [size= 32]
      Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

      00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
      I/O ports at cf60 [size= 32]
      Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

      00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
      I/O ports at ce00 [size= 256]
      I/O ports at cd80 [size= 128]
      Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0m

      01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8, IRQ 11
      Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 32M]
      Memory at fbc00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 4M]
      Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 32M]
      Memory at f7ff8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 32K]
      [virtual] Expansion ROM at 1c000000 [disabled] [size= 64K]
      Capabilities: <access denied>
      Kernel modules: tridentfb

      02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-754 [DS-1E Audio Controller]
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0003
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
      Memory at f7df8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
      I/O ports at df40 [size= 64]
      I/O ports at df3c [size= 4]
      Capabilities: <access denied>
      Kernel driver in use: Yamaha DS-1 PCI
      Kernel modules: snd-ymfpci

      02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
      Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 3013
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
      Memory at f7df7000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 4K]
      I/O ports at dec0 [size= 64]
      Capabilities: <access denied>
      Kernel driver in use: e100
      Kernel modules: e100

      02:0c.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
      Subsystem: Lucent Technologies Device ab01
      Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11
      Memory at f7d00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
      Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
      Memory window 0: 10000000-13fff000 (prefetchable)
      Memory window 1: 20000000-23fff000
      I/O window 0: 0000d000-0000d0ff
      I/O window 1: 0000d400-0000d4ff
      16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
      Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
      Kernel modules: yenta_socket

      02:0d.0 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support (rev 31)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11
      Memory at f7d01000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
      Bus: primary=02, secondary=07, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=0
      Memory window 0: 14000000-17fff000 (prefetchable)
      Memory window 1: 24000000-27fff000
      I/O window 0: 0000d800-0000d8ff
      I/O window 1: 0000dc00-0000dcff
      16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
      Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
      Kernel modules: yenta_socket

      02:0d.1 CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC100 PCI to Cardbus Bridge with ZV Support (rev 31)
      Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
      Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11
      Memory at f7d02000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size= 4K]
      Bus: primary=02, secondary=0b, subordinate=0e, sec-latency=0
      Memory window 0: 18000000-1bfff000 (prefetchable)
      Memory window 1: 28000000-2bfff000
      I/O window 0: 00001000-000010ff
      I/O window 1: 00001400-000014ff
      16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
      Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
      Kernel modules: yenta_socket

      als@als-laptop:~$

      Many thanks!

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        #4
        Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

        Originally posted by chaxastro

        01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63)
        Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0001
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8, IRQ 11
        Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Memory at fbc00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
        Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Memory at f7ff8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 1c000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: tridentfb
        Well, there it is ... whatever it is. :P

        The tridentfb kernel module is not familiar to me, but probably the "fb" stands for framebuffer, which is usually not good news for the X server. Mr. Google found a little information about GPU, but it's ancient news:

        http://fixunix.com/portable/12172-re...rblade-xp.html

        The second link here: http://www.downloadsource.net/c146/Trident/

        says it is "for Linux". That's all I can find about this unusual graphics chip.

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          #5
          Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

          Tridents are notoriously troublesome sometimes

          some starting points to get the correct resolution (I am guessing 1024x768)

          http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1523412
          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Res...ed_resolutions

          The gpu is old and poorly supported at best, but you should be able to get it with a little hacking

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            #6
            Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

            In addition to the above information .......yes you should have a swap partition on that box even if you put it up to 512 RAM .......I would give it at least 1 Gig .........

            On the display ........dose the monitor have any fine tuning adjustment's ?

            If it's just a small amount you may be able to use the hight and width adjustments on the monitor to fill the screen I had/have (I pack-rat every thing computer) a old box and monitor that I had to do that with

            VINNY
            i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
            16GB RAM
            Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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              #7
              Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS


              Thank you dibl, claydoh and vinnywright for your advice. Will give it a go.

              Having now looked up what a 'swap partition' is, it sounds as if I'd be advised to create a swap partition first.

              Will creating a swap partition improve the speed of the laptop, regardless of the amount of RAM it has? (Whatever happens, I plan to increase the RAM anyway). Apologies if that is a dumb question, but still trying to get my head around it!

              So looks like a re-install for me, bit of a pain, but it's all a part of the learning curve I guess.

              Will get back to you, thanks again,

              chaxastro

              'Humour is reason gone mad'
              Groucho Marx

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                #8
                Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

                I would not say a swap partition will make your computer faster; rather I would say a swap partition will keep your computer from falling to its knees and putting its little head on the chopping block, while running multiple applications that need access to the limited memory that is available.

                Assuming you are successful with the upgrade to 512MB of RAM, then you should probably make a swap partition of 600 - 700MB. That will allow it to swap out when needed, and if you don't push it too hard it might be usable.

                FYI, a lighter desktop like xfce or lxde would perform far better than KDE on this limited hardware platform.

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                  #9
                  Re: Desktop screen does not fill available area. Kubuntu 10.04LTS

                  I just had an annoying gap caused by fake Panels. Quitting and restarting plasma fixed it.

                  http://www.humbug.in/2010/killquit-a...plasma-on-kde/

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