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    Post Is 15.04 about to switch from upstart to systemd?

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    FFE: switch system init to systemd [not touch] in 15.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...a/+bug/1427654

    FFE = Feature Freeze Exception: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess

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    I tried booting with systemd a couple months ago on 14.10. Everything seemed to work except one item: KDM didn't load. The package is lacking a .service file. I tried hacking one up based on examples in other distros but never got it to work. Sure, I could switch to LightDM, but I'd rather keep my computers as pure KDE as possible.

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    It seems that the next Monday is the day - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/05...el.html#t17:03
    shadeslayer whoop whoop 17:03
    shadeslayer Announce: Vivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact 17:03
    shadeslayer pitti ftw 17:03
    Riddell we could do with someone testing that first 17:04
    yofel systemd runs fine for about 2 months here already 17:06
    yofel the only thing I ever had problems with was sddm when we had the systemd support enabled 17:06
    yofel er... disabled ofc 17:07

    Announce: Vivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ch/001130.html


    A quick test with the 15.04 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers:
    Switch for a single boot
    In grub, select "Advanced options for Ubuntu", where you will find an "Ubuntu, with Linux ... (systemd)" entry. This will boot with init=/lib/systemd/systemd...


    Seems to work at here - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi...svinit-in-bash
    rog132@fox6v:~$ pidof systemd && echo "systemd" || echo "other"
    1184 933 1
    systemd
    No probmesölejrpwehtqö
    Last edited by Rog132; Mar 9th 2015 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRiley View Post
    I tried booting with systemd a couple months ago on 14.10. Everything seemed to work except one item: KDM didn't load. The package is lacking a .service file. I tried hacking one up based on examples in other distros but never got it to work. Sure, I could switch to LightDM, but I'd rather keep my computers as pure KDE as possible.
    With KDE Plasma 5 KDM is being replaced with SDDM and I do know that SDDM does work with systemd.

    source -> http://news.softpedia.com/news/KDE-P...s-469977.shtml

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    Switched early to systemd (apt-get install systemd-sysv).
    All working fine apart from cifs shares in fstab needed modifying to mount properly and the pc isn't shutting down or restarting properly, screens turn off but pc not shutting down. maybe related to the cifs shares.

    EDIT: looks like systemd not shutting the pc down is effecting others.
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...d/+bug/1427672
    Last edited by deadite66; Mar 7th 2015 at 03:19 PM. Reason: added launchpad bug

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickStone View Post
    With KDE Plasma 5 KDM is being replaced with SDDM and I do know that SDDM does work with systemd.
    Yep. Seems there's no reliable SDDM for 14.10; at least there wasn't when I looked about five months ago. I haven't moved any of my machines to 15.04 because I use all of them for work.

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    Post Monday

    After:
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    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    Change:
    Reading package lists...
    Building dependency tree...
    Reading state information...
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    upstart
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    systemd-sysv
    The following packages will be upgraded:..
    ...and everything is quiet on the beach...

    Last edited by Rog132; Mar 9th 2015 at 10:09 AM.

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    No problems here, I can put up with a boot time of 10.568s.

    Code:
    danum@15:~$ systemd-analyze
    Startup finished in 4.402s (kernel) + 6.166s (userspace) = 10.568s
    
    danum@15:~$ systemd-analyze blame
              4.919s systemd-udev-settle.service
               372ms systemd-fsck-root.service
               369ms NetworkManager.service
               264ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
               238ms systemd-udevd.service
               205ms accounts-daemon.service
               183ms systemd-modules-load.service
               152ms ModemManager.service
               143ms ufw.service
               142ms plymouth-start.service
               140ms grub-common.service
               139ms udisks2.service
               133ms upower.service
               128ms apparmor.service
               114ms networking.service
               106ms systemd-journald.service
               100ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
                84ms systemd-logind.service
                80ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
                80ms alsa-restore.service
                79ms pppd-dns.service
                79ms rc-local.service
                78ms ondemand.service
                76ms systemd-user-sessions.service
                76ms apport.service
                75ms ifup-wait-all-auto.service
                74ms rsyslog.service
                70ms avahi-daemon.service
                69ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
                69ms plymouth-quit.service
                65ms kerneloops.service
                62ms irqbalance.service
                61ms console-setup.service
                53ms colord.service
                51ms polkitd.service
                44ms resolvconf.service
                41ms systemd-update-utmp.service
                37ms sys-kernel-debug.mount                                                                                                                                            
                32ms user@113.service                                                                                                                                                  
                30ms systemd-timesyncd.service                                                                                                                                         
                29ms systemd-sysctl.service                                                                                                                                            
                28ms systemd-journal-flush.service                                                                                                                                     
                26ms systemd-random-seed.service                                                                                                                                       
                24ms home.mount                                                                                                                                                        
                23ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service                                                                                                                                    
                22ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service                                                                                                                              
                22ms dev-mqueue.mount                                                                                                                                                  
                21ms dev-hugepages.mount                                                                                                                                               
                20ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-783...eb5bd7e.service                                                                         
                17ms kmod-static-nodes.service                                                                                                                                         
                16ms console-kit-daemon.service                                                                                                                                        
                13ms plymouth-read-write.service                                                                                                                                       
                12ms user@1000.service                                                                                                                                                 
                 9ms systemd-remount-fs.service                                                                                                                                        
                 8ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-7a251c13\x2d86ce\x2d41ff\x2d9113\x2d42ba70bc36c7.swap                                                                                         
                 8ms ifup@eth0.service                                                                                                                                                 
                 8ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service                                                                                                                                    
                 6ms dns-clean.service                                                                                                                                                 
                 4ms pulseaudio.service                                                                                                                                                
                 3ms rtkit-daemon.service                                                                                                                                              
                 3ms ureadahead-stop.service                                                                                                                                           
                 1ms udev-finish.service                                                                                                                                               
                 1ms lvm2.service                                                                                                                                                      
                 1ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount  
                                                                                                                                       
    danum@15:~$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
    The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.                                                                                                   
    The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                       
    graphical.target @6.143s                                                                                                                                                           
    └─multi-user.target @6.143s                                                                                                                                                        
      └─pulseaudio.service @6.138s +4ms
        └─NetworkManager.service @5.768s +369ms
          └─basic.target @5.758s
            └─sockets.target @5.758s
              └─uuidd.socket @5.758s
                └─sysinit.target @5.757s
                  └─networking.service @5.625s +114ms
                    └─local-fs.target @5.625s
                      └─run-cgmanager-fs.mount @5.838s
                        └─local-fs-pre.target @5.577s
                          └─systemd-remount-fs.service @929ms +9ms
                            └─systemd-fsck-root.service @556ms +372ms
                              └─systemd-fsckd.socket @555ms
                                └─-.slice @540ms

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    I am not in a position to try networking at the moment, but I have not had any problems with systemd at this stage. Just for the heck of it, I removed the password prompt and measured the boot time with my stopwatch. I am running 15.04 from a sandisk usb 3.0 flash disc and the boot time for SDDM is 18s and for systemd it is 19s. So there is very little difference in speed. Bugs are another issue of course. So far I have not found any related to systemd.

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