How to move icons on the panel to the left & how to get system tray back to right!!?

[icekool]

New to KDE and so far it's just a pain, I can see why its way down the list on DistroWatch.

Why does it have to be so damn awkward to do anything!!!!

All I want to do is add a few shortcuts/icons to the main panel, adding them is easy but they go automatically to the right and canot be dragged to the left near or next to the Kicker logo button, I am currently in classic mode. I have made sure that widgets are unlocked, I managed to drag it to the left somehow but now the whole system tray has moved to the left (notification icons, clock, clipboard tool, update notification etc).

If someone can tell me that there is a simple way to do something so basic (at least basic in any other OS or DE like Gnome, XFCE etc).

I'm on the verge of deleting KDE as it is FAR TOO ANNOYING, why does doing something so simple have to be so awkward

[OneLine]

The panel is a plasma containment. More of the plasma: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma


Moving the plasma panel objects:

1) Left click the toolbox / cashew icon

The panel can then be configured by clicking on the toolbox located on the right for horizontal or bottom for vertical panel.

2) Move the cursor top of the object - there should be a "compass rose". Left click and move the object.

[icekool]

Thanks very much for your answer but I have tried that over and over and yes the icon does move but it goes straight back to the wrong place and also I now have the problem of the system tray moving and sticking to the left (I have the panel horizontal at the bottom).

I can't believe I have spent 2 hours trying something so basic and still cant get it the way I want

[OneLine]

What objects do you have on the panel ?

Example:
- making a new empty panel
- adding there a system tray

The system tray want to position itself to the left.

- adding a panel spacer

The panel spacer will push the system tray to the right.

[icekool]

I added a spacer and it does keep the system tray to the right with a space between but now minimized windows dont appear on the panel and whenever I add a new icon/shortcut on the panel I have to mess around with resizing the spacer.

I have a better solution, open Virtualbox AND DELETE THIS CRAPPY GARBAGE, KDE IS THE WORST MOST AWKWARD DE I HAVE EVER TRIED, ****ING CRAP **** IT

[RibaFish66]

Try Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity and then you will see whats awkward.

[kubicle]

I added a spacer and it does keep the system tray to the right with a space between but now minimized windows dont appear on the panel and whenever I add a new icon/shortcut on the panel I have to mess around with resizing the spacer.

You don't need a spacer if you have the task manager widget (the widget that shows minimized windows) on the panel, the task manager will act as a "spacer" and expand to the empty space (maybe you removed the task manager widget if your panel doesn't show minimized windows anymore?). You can move a widget (icon,notification tray etc.) either to the left or right of the task manager, but you can't put a widget in the middle of the task manager widget (even if it shows as empty space because there aren't many windows currently open).

KDE IS THE WORST MOST AWKWARD DE I HAVE EVER TRIED

And yet it miraculously works for everyone else here. Besides, I've used most DEs and "panel editing" works pretty much the same in all of them.

[icekool]

You don't need a spacer if you have the task manager widget (the widget that shows minimized windows) on the panel, the task manager will act as a "spacer" and expand to the empty space (maybe you removed the task manager widget if your panel doesn't show minimized windows anymore?). You can move a widget (icon,notification tray etc.) either to the left or right of the task manager, but you can't put a widget in the middle of the task manager widget (even if it shows as empty space because there aren't many windows currently open).


And yet it miraculously works for everyone else here. Besides, I've used most DEs and "panel editing" works pretty much the same in all of them.

I think I may well have deleted the 'task manager' widget in my fit of rage, maybe I'll try KDE again sometime in the future, although I'm not in any hurry to do so, best solution for me was just right click on the virtual machine and very happily click on the 'delete' button.

thanks for your answer anyway

ps. with gnome at least when you add an item it goes straight to the left hand side by default which is normally where you want a quicklaunch item and to move icons around on a gnome panel you simply right click and drag it to wherever you want and it stays there usually

[icekool]

Try Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity and then you will see whats awkward.

I have no intention of trying that garbage unless I get a touchscreen, and I'm sure it is god awful awkward.

[lo_koraco]

Please, please, don't delete KDE. Stay with us, you're such a benefit to the community! We'd hate to see you go!