Some Programs Hang

[Xplorer4x4]

would not system settings>user management work for you ?

a quick look at "man useradd" will tell you you should use "adduser" on Debian distributions like Kubuntu !!!

just a sudo adduser will walk you thru all the way to a password , if I remember right

VINNY

I can't see why it wouldn't,but this is one task i have the habbit of using from a cli.

I typically find man pages are not as noob friendly as google.

As for adduser vs useradd, it was ages ago so maybe I typed it backwards but I am pretty sure adduser does not walk you all the way through on debian stable or ubuntu(precise) as I set up a basic multiuser ubuntu server the other week and do not recall being walked through passwd after creating the user, but then again it does run a modified openvz kernel(if memory serves me right) with(i guess) some sort of nx optimizations as it is listed as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin + x2go on the servers distro installation cp.

I just never experienced this problem before so wanted to be thorough. Perhaps it was a simple case of getting the words switched around as I used to do some basic work on a CentOS server and VPS for a few years. I am headed to bed atm and will double check with addusr tomorrow.

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[vinnywright]

would not system settings>user management work for you ?

a quick look at "man useradd" will tell you you should use "adduser" on Debian distributions like Kubuntu !!!

just a sudo adduser will walk you thru all the way to a password , if I remember right

VINNY

[Xplorer4x4]

Let me clarify: I figured to be through I would wait for further instructions to see if this is a sign of deeper system trouble, but if not I will gladly diagnose and repair this problems myself.

[Xplorer4x4]

You haven't reported do you have problems with a clean/new user

Sorry I completely forgot! Sorry, moving in a week so things are a bit hectic atm.

Ok so I did sudo useradd xplorer4x420(an old Internet alias from my teenage years lol) and sudo passwd xplorer4x420 and tried to switch sessions but I got this error lnusertemp failed or ln user temp and the error that it can not enter home directory /.

Now I was going to look in to the error above, but I figured to be through I would wait for further instructions to see if this is a sign of deeper system trouble.

[sumski]

You haven't reported do you have problems with a clean/new user

[Xplorer4x4]

Come on guys, I dont want to go back to windows, but this is crippling my kubuntu use.

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[Xplorer4x4]

Not sure if it is relevant or just one of those outputs you should ignore, but I accidentally launched ark from konsole. I meant to type ark -h and just put ark by mistake. When closing ark it says this in konsole: ark(20758)/kdeui (kdelibs) KXMLGUIClient::~KXMLGUIClient: 0x825288 deleted without having been removed from the factory first. This will leak standalone popupmenus and could lead to crashes.

The service menu is not using ark(at this time but looking in to it tomorrow) so I do not see how that can be related to that error IF that error is significant/relevant.

[Xplorer4x4]

Glad you see the use. If your are going to use it I suggest you do not integrate it with ark as you will loose it when an update comes down the pipe. Instead do it this way: http://pastebin.com/nUJdhx9x

Well I have not compiled anything from source as best as I recall. I think I tried one or two programs but failed and gave up. Is there no other log that would provide some useful insight here? I really don't want to do a complete system reinstall and not so sure it would help anyways. Would it be worth trying the official AMD driver for my GPU?

I gave kTorrent a try all day. It seems pretty much as powerful as Vuze although I think Vuze has a slight edge in the plug in field. However, the queue manager of kTorrent makes me want to bash my frigin head in! I HATE it with a passion!!! If the queue manager could be integrated in to the top window/section where the download speed, upload speed, and other important info is, I would probably jump ship as Vuze is giving me trouble in a few ways but fortunately the freezing of apps and the system is not one of them. Might give qBittorent a test run tomorrow.

[vinnywright]

The service menu is very helpful imo. Say you download something and the structure is something like
Parent Folder
-child1
-child2
-child3
-child4
Say each child folder has multi-part RARs. With this service menu, you right click on the Parent Folder and Konsole will launch. It searches each child folder for a RAR file and extracts all the files. Sure the default function works fine, if you just want to extract one RAR file, but in instances like I mentioned, it falls way short of practical. The only draw back to the service menu is say you select all the child folders, it launches a separate instance of Konsole for each RAR file it finds. If you have 8 child folder you would get 8 instances of Konsole. However, if you make sure you right click on "Parent Folder" it only launches a single instance of Konsole and extracts the RARs one at a time. If you are still confused,drop me a PM and I will explain it in terms that might be more torrent specific.

Aaaaa now I get it ; yes I see how that would be convenient

I have done alot of custimizing yes, but I think all that was undone when I reset kwin and plasma to the default setting and have not touched them other then disabling the transparency window effect or disabling all of the window effects. None of which solved the problem.

not necessarily even renaming your.kde would not undo changes made to the system files out side of /home/you ; so lets say vuze for example or any thing installed/compiled from source would not be effected by that (reseting kwin and plasma or renaming/removing your.kde)

As for getting Vuze straight from Ubuntu, I might if they had not stopped updating ages ago. The official version is 4.3 while the current version is 4.7.0.2 The last 4.3 version was released over 2 years ago(February 9, 2010). Trust me, I try to stick with the official releases or PPA releases, but sometimes that is just not the best thing to do, like using a 2+ year old torrent client.

OK I'll by that ........Ktorrent rely is a verey good feature rich program even has it's own IP filter block list that it updates automatic from http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/level1.gz as default or ware ever elce you know of to point it to with a similar file.
Sorry I keep plugging Ktorrent but I love it

☠VINNY☠

[Xplorer4x4]

I seem to be noticing a trend here...it seems like the hang occurs during disk intensive activity such as when a torrent client does a hash check. The odd part about this is Kubuntu runs on my SSD but all my torrents are downloaded straight to my Wester Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA III HDD. Since the hash check is not on the OS disk, I don't understand how it can cause the entire OS to hang. I am not convinced this should be the entire problem because the hangs have not always occurred during hash checking, but the last 3 times a torrent finished, and another started, it would cause the system to hang.

[Xplorer4x4]

The service menu is very helpful imo. Say you download something and the structure is something like
Parent Folder
-child1
-child2
-child3
-child4
Say each child folder has multi-part RARs. With this service menu, you right click on the Parent Folder and Konsole will launch. It searches each child folder for a RAR file and extracts all the files. Sure the default function works fine, if you just want to extract one RAR file, but in instances like I mentioned, it falls way short of practical. The only draw back to the service menu is say you select all the child folders, it launches a separate instance of Konsole for each RAR file it finds. If you have 8 child folder you would get 8 instances of Konsole. However, if you make sure you right click on "Parent Folder" it only launches a single instance of Konsole and extracts the RARs one at a time. If you are still confused,drop me a PM and I will explain it in terms that might be more torrent specific.

I have done alot of custimizing yes, but I think all that was undone when I reset kwin and plasma to the default setting and have not touched them other then disabling the transparency window effect or disabling all of the window effects. None of which solved the problem.

As for getting Vuze straight from Ubuntu, I might if they had not stopped updating ages ago. The official version is 4.3 while the current version is 4.7.0.2 The last 4.3 version was released over 2 years ago(February 9, 2010). Trust me, I try to stick with the official releases or PPA releases, but sometimes that is just not the best thing to do, like using a 2+ year old torrent client.

[vinnywright]

O ya your service menu for extracting rar's .
I’ve been meaning to ask ,just what dose that do?
I rely don’t know and would like to .
I use Ktorrent a lot and wind up with malty part .rar's a lot and the standard service menu works just fine for me (rite click the first rar and point at extract and then click extract hear autodetect subfolder ) and all is good .

have you been doing a lot of customizing to your system ?
if so it mite help to tell all you have been doing to help diagnose the problems you are having , like just dropping programs in hear and their or installing from source or converted .rpm's and the such insted of using the package manager !!

you say in post #18 "Well I used the source that comes pre compiled, pop it in /opt and chown /opt/vuze to $USER " ..........instead of just installing it from the package manager and getting a ver. that is made for your system!!

VINNY

[Xplorer4x4]

Had another freeze, this time I was looking around at the option in kTorrent more in deathly. Then, as I was typing, Akregator reported an update to one of my RSS Feeds. I went to check it and Akregator froze up. In both instances, only the program froze, not the entire OS. I checked the .xsession-errors log and still have nothing in there.

[Xplorer4x4]

I shut down vuze to test if I would get a hang when extracting a bunch of rars using this in the service menu. That is another time I noticed the system hang. I removed the .xsession-errors file right before attempting the extraction to make sure the log was not a mile log before attempting to reproduce the probelm. Sure enough when I started extracting, it one again cause the system to hang but the .xsession-errors log is still empty, so I think the problem goes deeper then Vuze. However I have been running Vuze for a few hours now and have not had a single hang up from it, but it was still producing errors in .xsession-errors.

[Xplorer4x4]

Maybe you manually installed it? Those commands have the same effect. You can see is it installed with package manager with

dpkg -l | grep veromix

If it shows nothing, it's installed by hand.
a) Try quitting azereus to see do issues persist after that
b) try removing vermix
c) new user

A) Hopefully the dependencies were the issue. Time will tell.
B) I did, but still have the widget show up oddly.
C) If A fails,and the x log doesnt provide more insight I will. Not trying to be difficulty. Just trying 1 fix at a time so if it fixes, I know what fixed it.

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