Preview windows in dolphin

[vinnywright]

I am confused , (yes a regular occurrence) .

on both 18.04 with a Dolphin 17.something and Neon-testing with a Dolphin 20.something ,,,I can turn off "tool tips" in Dolphin>settings>configure dolphin>general>show tool tips , AND with it off I do NOT get the "preview window" like in your post #19 BUT do get the "tool tip" (on the tool bar) like in your post #14.

turning ON that "tool tip" in Dolphins settings only affects the pop up preview on mouse over of files (like in your post #19)

maybe their is some quirk in the dolphin 19-seres that is doing this to you ??

VINNY

[chimak111]

I think terminology has become more relaxed given that more nationalities are contributing to projects.

I agree that terming what you see a "tooltip" is a bit much. I might have gone with something like inline preview or mini-preview

Edit: but IMO, "window" wouldn't be appropriate either.

[chimak111]

@geezer, in Kubuntu 20.04, you can also annotate images to point to or to highlight something or even to add some text. Kolourpaint is a program in the standard repositories that lets you do that. Some of us prefer ksnip which is not in the repos but can be installed, according to your risk tolerance and preferences, as a deb, AppImage, or snap package from https://github.com/ksnip/ksnip.

Example: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/0...79706c2e706e67.

[geezer]

Well at this point I'm totally "dazed and confused".
You say:

Which I take to mean that you can get both [the tooltips and the info panel] or neither.
But, if you turn the pesky tooltips off, you can still have the info panel (on and off with F11 - which "has no effect on turning them [the tooltips] on or off")
Now, if the above is true, you can have no "preview window" (the pesky tooltips) and have an info panel on the right if you want to (with F11).

Which, BTW, is exactly what I get here.
What am I getting wrong?

Okay, did you read my posting above about tool tips and the F11 panel. The F11 panel is not a tool tip no matter what some people like to call it, unless of course common usage now redefines tool tip to mean something other than what it was for 40 years in my personal experience. Panel would be a better name and is the name used in other programs such as Jedit and Kate I believe (my personal experience of Kate is much more limited than Jedit) It could a dockable panel or not. Just look at your own question where you called it "info panel".

So if you usd my definition of tool tip which I described above then I can get tool tips and the preview window or neither. Both are independent in Dolphin from the F11 panel. The panel info and the preview window seem to present the same info, but in a different manner. F11 controls only the panel and not the 'tool tip' or preview window. I have attached a screen shot of the preview window, that LARGE black window in the screen shot. The F11 panel is off to the right side.

[Don B. Cilly]

F11 has no effect on turning them on or off.

Well at this point I'm totally "dazed and confused".
You say:

I can get both or none.

Which I take to mean that you can get both [the tooltips and the info panel] or neither.
But, if you turn the pesky tooltips off, you can still have the info panel (on and off with F11 - which "has no effect on turning them [the tooltips] on or off")
Now, if the above is true, you can have no "preview window" (the pesky tooltips) and have an info panel on the right if you want to (with F11).

Which, BTW, is exactly what I get here.
What am I getting wrong?

[claydoh]

The panel and the tooltip are displaying the same data, is all I am saying. If you edit the settings for what is shown on the panel, it also affects what is displayed in the tooltip.

KDE calls the mouse-over pop-up box a tooltip, which pretty much the definition of one. the panel is not called a tooltip at all

I thine we are all getting a bit lost in details I think


So going back to your original question(s):

Dolphin pops up a window preview of the file the cursor is on. The pop-up window blocks the file names and is extremely irritaing.

I have search system settings and Dolphin setting and can find no way to turn of the preview.

That pop-up window is irritating and distracting.

How do I turn off the preview feature?

Do you want to turn off the popup window (ie the tooltip) >>> already answered
or just the image preview part of it ? (I do not think this can be done)
or reduce what is shown in the tooltip?
Or something else?

Sorry we are making things a bit to difficult here.

[Snowhog]

Ok. You have a radically different definition of 'tool tip' than what I learned and experienced for years. Not wrong, just very different.
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Exceptionally well presented!

[geezer]

Not to be persterish ;·), just curious by nature.
If you have the tooltips set to off, and toggle the info panel with F11, it turns them back on?

No.

F11 has no effect on turning them on or off. Which shows me that even the developers didn't consider the panel a 'tool tip'. Otherwise it would be logical to link F11 to the 'tool tip' setting.

[geezer]

What I mean is that there won't be any changes in behavior or settings/options in this regard when upgrading.

The tooltip is the entire window including the preview and the data shown

The tooltips option has been around for a while and have not changed much if at all over the years and after upgrading you won't see any differences.

However, hopefully this is helpful:

The tooltip is just a different representation of the Information panel that is available in Dolphin. toggle it off and on with f11

In this panel if you right click on the preview window and click the configure button you can edit what's shown or not. The options shown do depend a bit on the type of file so there is no universal options but anything you change in the Information Panel settings is what will be shown in the tooltip. This might help reduce the clutter maybe. Or maybe using the panel might be useful for you. It changes as you mouse over files.

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Ok. You have a radically different definition of 'tool tip' than what I learned and experienced for years. Not wrong, just very different.

Here is a view of dolphin with what I learned and call a 'tool tip'. That little black box with white lettering is what I call a tool tip.

Just to be clear, I am stating the obvious and how I understood the term to originate.

The second row of at the top of Dolphin is called the 'Tool Bar' . The buttons are called tools. They execute a function when clicked. The meaning of some of the labels may be obscure since the label has to be short to fit the button. On some button only a pictogram is displayed. With 'tool tips' turned on a little box pops open to give a more verbose explanation of the tool. For example the little black box in the screen shot, which gives a longer description of the zoom tool than the pictogram label on the tool button. To a lot of people the pictogram doesn't mean much of anything, but once they read the popup tool tip, it becomes clearer. After some use they don't need the tool tips anymore and turn them off. Some buttons have a pictogram plus text to explain their function, e.g., "Redisplay" or "New Tab" or "Hidden Files", etc.

If I place the cursor on the "File" label above the tool bar, no tool tip pops up. That label is not a tool.

In a directory listing, a folder or file is not a tool. An executable file may be considered a "tool". That would be debatable. Files and folders are containers, not tools. Even "executable files" is somewhat of a misnomer, in that the file itself is not executable, but rather the contents are executable. "Executable File" is much easier to write and say than the description and is usually understood immediately.

Thus, to me at least, to call the window that pops up when the cursor rests on a file or folder a tool tip is a gross misuse of the English Language, granted that happens all the time, but to do so in this manner, I simply do not understand. Why contort preview into tool tip. Preview is a perfectly good word with a clear meaning. Tool Tip is a perfectly good phrase that has been used since the advent of the GUI and it's use had nothing to do with previewing the contents of files or folders which is what is clearly done in this instance.

If the developers want to continue this misuse, then I will adapt now that I know and understand their misuse.
A preview of a file or folder shows some indications of the contents thereof. That is not a 'tool tip'. It does not explain the "function" of the file or folder.

The tooltip is just a different representation of the Information panel that is available in Dolphin. toggle it off and on with f11

This is where I depart from your use. For too many years I have used the tool tip to mean as I explained above. The panel that opens when F11 is depressed is not a tool tip to me. I have never in over 50 years of working on computers and computer languages, seen that panel referred to as a 'tool tip' and I still do not understand what 'tool' it is describing.

[Don B. Cilly]

Not to be persterish ;·), just curious by nature.
If you have the tooltips set to off, and toggle the info panel with F11, it turns them back on?

[geezer]

But... if you turn off tooltips you don't get the "preview window" - or do you?
Because I don't (on 20.04 and on Neon).

And toggling the right-hand info panel with F11 can be handy...

I can get both or none.

geezer

[claydoh]

Don't think I understand what you mean by "feature". Do you mean the preview window? do you mean the tool tips? Do you mean controlling the preview window as a tool tip?

Thanks,
geezer

What I mean is that there won't be any changes in behavior or settings/options in this regard when upgrading.

The tooltip is the entire window including the preview and the data shown

The tooltips option has been around for a while and have not changed much if at all over the years and after upgrading you won't see any differences.

However, hopefully this is helpful:

The tooltip is just a different representation of the Information panel that is available in Dolphin. This panel can toggled off and on with f11.

In this panel if you right click on the preview image area and click the configure button you can edit what's shown or not. The options shown do depend a bit on the type of file so there is no universal options but anything you change in the Information Panel settings is what will be shown in the tooltip. This might help reduce the clutter maybe. Or maybe using the panel might be useful for you. It changes as you mouse over files.

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[Don B. Cilly]

But... if you turn off tooltips you don't get the "preview window" - or do you?
Because I don't (on 20.04 and on Neon).

And toggling the right-hand info panel with F11 can be handy...

[geezer]

The feature is not enabled as a default setting so Kubuntu or most implementations won't have this behavior normally.

Upgrading won't change things even if it were as any settings you edit or change won't be overwritten during the process.

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Don't think I understand what you mean by "feature". Do you mean the preview window? do you mean the tool tips? Do you mean controlling the preview window as a tool tip?

Thanks,
geezer

[geezer]

Thank you. Never used the delay, didn't really understand what it was for. Here is the screen shot with the preview window