Do You Agree That Kubuntu Should be Renamed - If So, What Name?

[woodsmoke]

The Grey one mentioned Kwheezy so I gave a look see at some reviews:

The combination of the KDE desktop with a lot of useful software and Debian's rock solid base is a winning formula.

Now, he really was not pleased with all the "eye candy" he said that his tastes run to basically.............not much on the desktop, and that it is "heavy", because they have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink, but he also said that providing codecs and flash from the get-go was a great idea.

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?is...131021#feature

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[SteveRiley]

what would happen in 2014 when the graphical interface used by Debian digresses from that used by Canonical?

I think you meant to type this the other way around, with modifications: "...when the [GUI] used by Canonical digresses from that used by [every other Linux distribution]?"

Debian will continue to build the X Window System even as Wayland begins to trickle in. The base X stack, as well as the X-Swat and Xorg-Edgers PPAs, will continue to sync the source code from Debian. The various *buntu flavors will continue distributing these builds of X until the underlying toolkits and window managers are ready for the switch over to Wayland.

[NoWorries]

Thanks for the clarification of the way ubuntu is developed from Debian's Sid software source. I couldn't help wonder while I was reading it, what would happen in 2014 when the graphical interface used by Debian digresses from that used by Canonical? Hopefully we do not get mired down with this difference, if we source our packages from Canonical. It will be great if Blue Systems has the manpower to pick and choose the packages from Canonical and prepare others specifically required for Wayland in 2014.

Given the potential changes in this area, we need to be prepared to consider changing the name "Kubuntu". I am not in favour of the name BlueDeSK as to me it does not sound like a software package. Rather it implies a Blue Desk.

[SteveRiley]

The main problem is that I have is that it implies our system is based on a Debian development cycle which is Unstable. Is that what Ubuntu has done in the past and will it continue to do so in the future?

https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/instal...ntu-and-debian

Ubuntu makes a release every six months, and supports those releases for 18 months with daily security fixes and patches to critical bugs.

As Ubuntu prepares for release, we “freeze” a snapshot of Debian's development archive (“sid”). We start from “sid” in order to give ourselves the freedom to make our own decisions with regard to release management, independent of Debian's release-in-preparation. This is necessary because our release criteria are very different from Debian's.

As a simple example, a package might be excluded from Debian “testing” due to a build failure on any of the 11 architectures supported by Debian “sarge”, but it is still suitable for Ubuntu if it builds and works on only three of them. A package will also be prevented from entering Debian “testing” if it has release-critical bugs according to Debian criteria, but a bug which is release-critical for Debian may not be as important for Ubuntu.

As a community, we choose places to diverge from Debian in ways that minimize the difference between Debian and Ubuntu. For example, we usually choose to update to the very latest version of Gnome rather than the older version in Debian, and we might do the same for key other pieces of infrastructure such as X or GCC. Those decisions are listed as Feature Goals for that release, and we work as a community to make sure that they are in place before the release happens.

[Qqmike]

Gosh, gee, I can tell that no one liked my suggestion ... KubuntuRenamed ...

[NoWorries]

How about, if it is KDE based on Debian Sid:

BlueDeSK

BlueDebianSidKDE

woodsmoke

My main problem is, that it implies our system is based on a Debian development cycle which is Unstable. Is that what Ubuntu has done in the past and will it continue to do so in the future?

[woodsmoke]

How about, if it is KDE based on Debian Sid:

BlueDeSK

BlueDebianSidKDE

woodsmoke

[SteveRiley]

I must be a completely uncultured boob, I do not get that video at all.

Teunis posted some stuff about chicken; it reminded me of the misheard lyrics video that I had just watched half an hour before I read his post and I still had my own performance of that music in mind. Thus, saliency.

Watch this performance of the full cantata. It's riveting stuff, the percussion section in the orchestra is fantastic, and Seiji Ozawa is amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-DgS75lfmw

Now watch the Trans-Siberian Orchestra deliver their rendition of "O Fortuna":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Qie_tgez8

I'm pretty sure Carl Orff would have been proud

[woodsmoke]

ummmm I think that maybe large amounts of alcohol might help!

woodsmoke

[richb]

I must be a completely uncultured boob, I do not get that video at all.

[woodsmoke]

Oh I hate you I hate you I hate you! THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING AROUND IN MY EMPTY SKULL FOR DAYS!!!!

WHERE IS MY RUM!!! FORGET THE COKE!!

lol

no, really, thanks that is a kewl link, not for my sanity, but a kewl link!

woodsmoke

[SteveRiley]

e) the REST of the time, they did EXACTLY what is illustrated in that video! They would beat the air, beat the table, beat their head with their fists, throw paper, pen and ink against the raging sky, screaming out, dancing around, and sometimes just sitting calmly staring off into space and if you interrupted them..... nothing until they threw an ink pot at you.

The music in that video is from Carl Orff's setting of Carmina Burana, specifically the closing movement "O Fortuna." It's probably the most widely recognized work of twentieth century classical music, appearing in many commercials, movie trailers, and convertibles zooming down country roads on warm summer evenings.

We performed a wind band arrangement of the cantata two weeks ago in the Seattle Symphonic Band; what a blast. My first encounter with Carmina Burana was as high school junior in the Columbus Youth Symphony, where we performed the complete original orchestral setting with full percussion (two pianos!), large choir, boys choir, and soloists. You can imagine that, as high schoolers, we were all thoroughly engrossed in the English translations of the text, as it's all about drinking, gambling, and lust

The linked video is one of many in the "Misheard Lyrics" meme -- there are hundreds of these covering numerous classical and popular works. They are all hysterious.

[woodsmoke]

LOL
SR,

you may be a poet

and do not know it!

Please, kind sir, to your feet look down.......

and without a frown....

share with us...are they.... LONGFELLOWS....?

if yes then, indeed, you ARE a poet....

but did not know it!



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[SteveRiley]

Waka waka bang splat tick tick hash,
Caret quote back-tick dollar dollar dash,
Bang splat equal at dollar underscore,
Percent splat waka waka tilde number four,
Ampersand bracket bracket dot dot slash,
Vertical-bar curly-bracket comma comma CRASH.

I was reading that and thought...boy, the meter sounds awfully familiar. Then it hit me: "Twinkle, twinkle, little star"!

[woodsmoke]

Dragonbyte that video is HILARIOUS!

And for people who have never been around real, working poets:

a) The "modern" way to do poetry is loosely called: "Do what you dam# well please, get a government grant or teach in a college and you will have part of the bell curve love it!.....and also not have to do anything much to have enough money to be comfortable( no poet expects to get rich) "

b) the "previous way" ... to which the "modern way" is merely a reaction...... "I can't do what those STUPID OLD PEOPLE did BACK THEN! I'm.....modern! I'm progressive (meaning "to go past what previous people did, or do it differently)".

i) The people who did poetry "back then" made up rhyming schemes: a-b-a-b-c, or such as a-b-c-a-b-c-c-b-a-c-b-a.
or
ii) people who did poetry "back then" made poems using a rhyme scheme.

c) A really GOOD poet has such an ENCYCLOPEDIC knowledge of "verbiage" that ending a stanza with a "word that fit" just came naturally.

d) "not quite so good poets" have an excellent knowledge of verbiage and could easily come up with stanza that had rhyming words most of the time...

e) the REST of the time, they did EXACTLY what is illustrated in that video! They would beat the air, beat the table, beat their head with their fists, throw paper, pen and ink against the raging sky, screaming out, dancing around, and sometimes just sitting calmly staring off into space and if you interrupted them..... nothing until they threw an ink pot at you.

Eventually the magic word appeared was applied to paper and the rest is history, what you read in Literature books because it was good and everybody could agree with it being good.

You didn't necessarily LIKE reading poetry in second form, but at least you could say that it.....rhymed....

LOL......If you do not want to know how sausage is made do NOT watch a poet writing!

woodsmoke