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**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:23 PM

are you getting from precise-backports ?
post this

Code:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

VINNY

**SteveRiley** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:25 PM

The packages in the backports repository are pinned at priorty 100. This means that, without a bit of effort, none of the packages will upgrade automatically. This was a change introduced in 11.04.

If you want to upgrade a specific package, run a command such as:

Code:

sudo apt-get install [i]package[/i]/[i]release[/i]-backports

Alternately:

Code:

sudo apt-get -t=[i]release[/i]-backports install [i]package[/i]

You can make a change to APT's preferences to force APT to automatically upgrade from backports: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports

**Thiudans** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:28 PM

No PPAs show up in cat /etc/apt/sources.list. In muon, it does show precise for the ppa backports.

I removed the ppa via the CLI, but the updates still show up via CLI and via muon.

Edit: The updates which remain are for 4.8.5, and they appear to be from the normal repositories, and they happen to look the same. So, no ghost in my machine. :-)

**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post

The packages in the backports repository are pinned at priorty 100. This means that, without a bit of effort, none of the packages will upgrade automatically. This was a change introduced in 11.04.

that's strange I just got KDE-4.9.1 yesterday with a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and nothing elce ?

VINNY
EDIT :A yes but I have the back-ports PPA enabled

**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:31 PM

hear follow this if you want http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plas...d-platform-491

VINNY

**SteveRiley** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Thiudans View Post

No PPAs show up in cat /etc/apt/sources.list. In muon, it does show precise.

I removed the ppa via the CLI, but the updates still show up via CLI and via muon.

The deb and deb-src entries for PPAs do not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list. Instead, they are listed in files stored in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory, one file per PPA.

**SteveRiley** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

that's strange I just got KDE-4.9.1 yesterday with a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and nothing elce ?

VINNY
EDIT :A yes but I have the back-ports PPA enabled

Right...I think the Kubuntu-Backports PPA probably doesn't set the pin priority to 100. Let's check something:

Code:

apt-cache policy kde-runtime

**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:47 PM

AA YES THAT'S RIGHT........and thay can be labeld quite strangly as well for example this is labeled kubuntu-ppa-backports-natty.list but contanes

#disabled on upgrade to oneiric
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise main
#disabled on upgrade to oneiric
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise main

go figure

VINNY

**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post

Right...I think the Kubuntu-Backports PPA probably doesn't set the pin priority to 100. Let's check something:

Code:

apt-cache policy kde-runtime

K hear

Code:

vinny@Vinnys-HP-G62:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ apt-cache policy kde-runtime
kde-runtime:
  Installed: 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1
  Candidate: 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1 0
        500 [url]http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/[/url] precise/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1 0
        500 [url]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
     4:4.8.2-0ubuntu2 0
        500 [url]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] precise/main amd64 Packages

VINNY

**Thiudans** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:55 PM

Here is mine:

Code:

kde-runtime:
  Installed: 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1
  Candidate: 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:4.8.2-0ubuntu2 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages

I Just updated to 4.8.5. I will try again tomorrow. Still strange that it wanted to install 4.8.2 when I was running 4.8.4.

**SteveRiley** · Sep 17, 2012, 08:58 PM

Ah, so it would appear that the Kubuntu backports are pinned at the default 500. I suppose this is because it's a PPA rather than an "official" Ubuntu repository.

As to what you're seeing your previous post... my guess is that you built your box with Natty, then upgraded to Oneric and again to Precise. The release upgrade process doesn't change the names of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d.

**vinnywright** · Sep 17, 2012, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post

Ah, so it would appear that the Kubuntu backports are pinned at the default 500. I suppose this is because it's a PPA rather than an "official" Ubuntu repository.

As to what you're seeing your previous post... my guess is that you built your box with Natty, then upgraded to Oneric and again to Precise. The release upgrade process doesn't change the names of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d.

yes mine started life as 11.04 and has been net upgraded ever sense about 1 month after relece usualy with the next relece candidate on the testing partition

......however right now it Ubuntu12.04 on the testing partition (the grandson likes to draw fire on the screen with compiz ....LOL

VINNY

**Thiudans** · Sep 18, 2012, 02:57 PM

Well, upgrded to 4.8.5 yesterday, and added backports today, and the system still tries to "upgrade" to 4.8.2 from 4.8.5. So, if I want to upgrade to 4.9.1, what package names do I use to force that?

Code:

Get:14 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-scripttools i386 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [285 kB]
Get:15 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-qt3support amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [1,079 kB]
Get:16 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-qt3support i386 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [1,103 kB]
Get:17 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-opengl amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [350 kB]
Get:18 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-opengl i386 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [357 kB]
Get:19 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-opengl-dev amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [79.7 kB]
Get:20 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-help amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [258 kB]
Get:21 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-designer amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [3,666 kB]
Get:22 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-designer i386 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [3,705 kB]
Get:23 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main libqt4-declarative amd64 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 [1,123 kB]

**vinnywright** · Sep 18, 2012, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Thiudans View Post

Well, upgrded to 4.8.5 yesterday, and added backports today, and the system still tries to "upgrade" to 4.8.2 from 4.8.5. So, if I want to upgrade to 4.9.1, what package names do I use to force that?

let me ask you this .......are you just running

Code:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

?

if so you will not get 4.9.1 you should run

Code:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

upgrade only updates installed software and dose not up it to the next ver. dist-upgrade will take you up a ver. if available!!

VINNY

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