Need help to find a WYSIWYG Web editor

[rossdv8]

Hi Goeroeboeroe.
I was thinking exactly the same when I was writing my reply. But I have to admit there have been times when all I wanted was a quick and dirty page that needed absolutely no coding. Dragon droppings works for that. But one always hopes never to have to edit the page, or add links.
I hate WYSIWYG drag and drop editors because of the pseudo HTML they produce to position elements. But the fact is, for a single page it is possible to use various existing tools and never write a line of HTML. The downside is that because the web browsers and HTML are constantly evolving, you finish up with a mess that doesn't display properly.
My favourite HTML editor used to be Windows Notepad. These days it is Kwrite :-)
I have never found a drag and drop HTML editor, even in Windows, that worked properly and created a properly coded page.
IIMSI Web Dwarf, and I think Coffee Cup were close.
I notice Blue Griffon was installed in one of my Linux boxes, but I cannot remember why I installed it. May have been to test for someone like the OP.

[Goeroeboeroe]

You can use those programs, but I wouldn't advise them. Older versions of MS Office put proprietary code in it only Inter Explorer can render. But even newer versions of Internet Explorer don't render that code well.
LibreOffice / OpenOffice and newer versions of MS Office put a lot (and I mean a LOT) extra css in the code. If you use that kind of programs, it's nearly impossible to correct something if the rendering is wrong in one or more browsers. I've seen a lot of questions on forums from people who used that programs (or a bad wysiwyg-editor), and most of the time it was just impossible to help them, because the code was one big puzzle. If you, for example, repeat the font-family in every (and I mean EVERY) tag, it's almost impossible to find where things go wrong with the rendered font.
I would use those programs only if you really hate yourself, if you're absolutely sure you never have to ask anything about the code, and if you're absolutely sure you never have to change something.
As far as I know on Linux the best free wysiwyg-editor is still BlueGriffon. On Windows htmlkit seems to be good too.

[rossdv8]

Remember that as long as you are content with very basic pages, MS Office, Libre Office and various other programs are able to do basic WYSIWYG html. It is pretty limited though.

In Libre you can use Writer (very basic) and Draw as well as Present.

In Draw, once you type text, it appears in a frame. You can resize and drag the contents of each frame. You can also drag and drop images and resize and reposition them. It will never be as good as writing HTML in an editor, but it works. Ther willbe errors in the way it looks in different browsers though. That's the penalty of WYSIWYG. You don;t really get what you see.

If you play with draw, you will find you can't 'save as' HTML. You have to use File > Export. You will have a heap of options then as to how you want your html to end up.

Try it. Open the result in a few browsers. See what it does.

[silver_moon]

Quanta plus can be installed by getting packages from old repositories and installing the trinity packages.
Get the full instructions here

install quanta plus on ubuntu 13.04

[Snowhog]

Not for Kubuntu per se, but definitely for Kubuntu Forums.

[ardvark71]

The 'k' (in blue) is for Kubuntu. We thought this title especially appropriate for OneLine.

Hi...

I had no idea OneLine performed these duties for Kubuntu. ;-)

Regards...

[Snowhog]

The 'k' (in blue) is for Kubuntu. We thought this title especially appropriate for OneLine.

See the wikipedia description for Scribe

[ardvark71]

Master Skribe?

OneLine, are you part of KDE's programming team?

Regards...

[Goeroeboeroe]

Maybe I'm wrong and it's still possible to install Quanta - with some effort - on Kubuntu. But it's not maintained so it's having the same problem as Kompozer etc. On Natty I can still use it, but more and more it gives me syntax errors etc. because it simply doesn't recognize the newest code. So, whether I like it or not, when I upgrade my Kubuntu I have to start using another program.
The only other one in the repos I know is Bluefish, but that's not nearly as good as Quanta. So I'll probably start using some program outside of the repos, like Aptana.

[OneLine]

Trinity rides Again

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Hill_(film))

Earlier - KDE 3.5 Applications with the Kubutu 9.10 : http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...he-Kubutu-9-10

Now - KDE 3.5 Applications with the Kubuntu 11.10: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10538...n-ubuntu-11-10


1) Making a file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list

2) Adding the GPG signing key

3) Looking Quanta



It is quanta-trinity

4) Installing the quanta-trinity

Log of sudo apt-get install quanta-trinity
Fri Mar 9 18:52:29 2012

The following packages will be REMOVED:
kdesdk kompare
The following NEW packages will be installed:
docbook-defguide kdelibs-data-trinity kdelibs4c2a-trinity
kfilereplace-trinity klinkstatus-trinity kommander-trinity kompare-trinity
kxsldbg-trinity launchpad-integration libarts1c2a-trinity libqt3-mt
libtqtinterface quanta-data-trinity quanta-trinity tidy xbase-clients
0 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 34.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 115 MB of additional disk space will be used.

5) The exec is /opt/trinity/bin/quanta

[Goeroeboeroe]

I think Kompozer was a pretty good program, just like nvu was. But with html5 and css3 things are changing so fast, a program is really fast getting too old. BlueGriffon is supporting html5 and css3. Don't know the details, because not everything can be used yet.
Something like round corners is really easy to make with css3, but you can't do that with Kompozer.
I never use a wysiwyg-editor, but for people that just want to make a site an up-to-date editor is really important. So I'm glad with BlueGriffon.

[GreyGeek]

I used to use Quanta +, but switched to Nvu. Nvu was abandon but KompoZer forked the source and continued on. KompoZer is in the repository.

KompoZer is based on Gecko, the layout engine inside Mozilla; it's a super-fast, very reliable, standards conformant engine maintained on a daily basis by a wide community of developers. Its remarkable support of XML, CSS and JavaScript offers the best authoring platform on the market. Its architecture based on XUL makes it the most extensible editing tool ever.
KompoZer is a stand-alone tool; hence its small size and fast speed.
Those who are familiar with the DreamWeaver interface will feel right at home with KompoZer:

• WYSIWYG editing of pages, making web creation as easy as typing a letter with your word processor.
• Integrated file management via FTP. Simply login to your web site and navigate through your files, editing web pages on the fly, directly from your site.
• Reliable HTML code creation that will work with all of today's most popular browsers.
• Jump between WYSIWYG Editing Mode and HTML using tabs.
• Tabbed editing to make working on multiple pages a snap.
• Powerful support for forms, tables, and templates.
• The easiest-to-use, most powerful Web Authoring System available for Desktop Linux, Microsoft Windows and Apple Macintosh users.

and the list goes on to several times that length. It's well documented and it is free.

[Goeroeboeroe]

Quanta Plus is not supported anymore. It's really a pity, because it's my main application for building sites. I'm running 11.04, but it's not in the repos anymore, I've read.
BlueGriffon wasn't developed during a few year, that's probably why it's not in a repo. I think it won't take too long before it is.
There were a lot of problems with nvu. It was sold to a Linux company that doesn't exist anymore. If I remember well it was Lindows. After Lindows quit, nvu wasn't developed anymore. But there was a patent on the name. That's why Kompozer took over. Same program, other name.
The developer of Kompozer got a paid job and quit developing Kompozer. Sigh.
And now the original makers of nvu are developing BlueGriffon. Again. Could make a Hollywood movie of it.

Edit: BlueGriffon makes money with selling add-ons too. I think it's a nice model. You have a pretty good (as far as I know) wysiwyg-editor, and for the extras you pay.

[sithlord48]

Quanta is very similar to dreamweaver, i have made several pages with it, althougth its been a little while so i can't remember if it supports templates (but i think it did)

[BNBPhoto]

Hi,

indeed, the way they generate revenue through selling the plug-ins also. But it is a prety easy piece of software to use.

Cheers