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Darkwing
May 28th 2012, 11:15 PM
Hey everyone.


I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you guys.


Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what happened and where we are at in this Trademark thing.


For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are no plans to change the name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario. Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any reasons we would change our name.


Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue Systems is playing in Kubuntu.


Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as well.


Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of Kubuntu that started this whole thing?"


Sort of.


What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu.


Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this.


So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else.


There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a budget and receive finactial support.


From a developers view, we are moving from the main repositories and into universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include into our distro.


Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways.


Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto actual tablet hardware.


ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons so that we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as it moves us ahead in the tablet ready distros.


If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them.

SteveRiley
May 29th 2012, 01:56 AM
David, thank you for the update.


As of right now there are plans to change the name.
Is it safe to assume that perhaps you omitted a negative and that this sentence should read "As of right now, there are no plans to change the name."?

Jonas
May 29th 2012, 08:01 AM
David, thank you for the update.


Is it safe to assume that perhaps you omitted a "not," and that this sentence should read "As of right now, there are no plans to change the name."?

Same as I thought and interpreted the whole sentence, and thank you for the update!

In the users mailing list there was a post of Jonathan regarding council elections. I would love to hear some more about the council (I read this post https://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/kubuntu-council-what-is-this/ ). I have no intention of nominate myself this time around, but maybe others who consider they would be a asset to Kubuntu.

What have the council discussed previously? (link?)
How often do the council assembly? (How much time would it require ?)
What are the future scenario and agenda?
etc..etc.

I guess this would need a different thread.

best regards
Jonas

jovin
May 29th 2012, 11:26 AM
A Kubuntu Shop is what I'm waiting for!

Thanks for the update.

ardvark71
May 29th 2012, 04:05 PM
Hi David....

In case you didn't notice, I asked you a question here. (http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58578-KDE-Firefox-integration) I would appreciate your response. :)

Regards...

Darkwing
May 29th 2012, 05:16 PM
Yes, I am sorry for that typo. There are NO plans to change. The Kubuntu store is something that I have a LOT of personal interest in.

Jonas
May 30th 2012, 12:34 PM
I wouldn't mind a store.

David could you please adress someone in the council to give a brief presentation of their work the last year ?

best regards

Jonas

Darkwing
May 30th 2012, 04:08 PM
I wouldn't mind a store.

David could you please adress someone in the council to give a brief presentation of their work the last year ?



I'm not quite sure what you are asking for here, did you want a specific person on the council to give a break down of work or, did you want a brief overview of what people on the council have done?

Jonas
May 31st 2012, 07:07 AM
I'm not quite sure what you are asking for here, did you want a specific person on the council to give a break down of work or, did you want a brief overview of what people on the council have done?

I'd like to know what one would expect who is elected to the council, and what is expected by the council of it's members. One way could be what have been discussed the last year(s). Just a breif presentation about the work the council have done and/or what's on the agenda.

b.r

Jonas

JontheEchidna
May 31st 2012, 01:21 PM
In the event that there is not consensus in the development community in regards to how the development of Kubuntu should proceed, the issue is brought forward to the Kubuntu Council for mediation. This is probably the biggest/most visible role that the Kubuntu council plays. For example, last cycle there was a difference of opinion in the development community about which software to use for the default instant messager for the Kubuntu 12.04 LTS release. (KDE Telepathy vs. Kopete)

On the one hand, Kopete is somewhat unmaintained, leading to the argument to be made that future updates for grave bugs/security fixes may fall entirely on the shoulders of the Kubuntu development team. On the other, while KDE Telepathy looks to provide a better user experience, it is still very young software that has yet to be "put through its paces" via mass consumption, the argument being that that consideration makes it unsuitable for inclusion in a Long Term Support release like 12.04 was.

In the end and after public discussion on the kubuntu-devel mailing list, the council decided in a 5 to 1 vote to "stick with the devil you know" and stay with Kopete for 12.04, to be on the safe side, with the caveat that we look to switch to KDE Telepathy by default for 12.10+.

So mostly the Kubuntu Council aids in the steering of the technical direction of Kubuntu, in a manner similar to the above example.

Jonas
Jun 1st 2012, 07:48 AM
@JontheEchidna (http://www.kubuntuforums.net/member.php?16854-JontheEchidna)

Thank you for the reply, exactly what I was asking for :)

b.r

Jonas