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dstites
Oct 26th 2011, 07:03 PM
I have been using Linux since 1995, mostly Slackware. I have tried other distributions but always went back. I have been running Ubuntu in Virtual Box on my Windows machine and liked it but I have always used the KDE desktop so decided to put a new install of Kubuntu on my Slackware machine. I copied a few files off the machine to a thumb drive, downloaded the iso image file, burned a CD and rebooted. The installation was very direct and painless. I resized the partitions, created a swap and made a ext4 file system. Then I went and made a pot of coffee while Kubuntu was installed.

I am very impressed with the installation program apt-get. I used it to install Postfix added my relay info in the config files and my email was working. Then I used it to install Dovecot-imapd. I had a lot of problems getting my IMAP subdirectories to show up. Thunderbird won't even load on the Linux machine and from the Windows 7 machine it only sees some of the subfolders. So I tried Kmail. After learning how to get rid of the 'most messages in its own folder' display I liked it. I still had some issues with subfolders but by turning debug on in Dovecot and reading the logs I finally got namespaces defined properly. Then I used apt-get to install Spamassassin and wow, I didn't even have to look at the config files it works fine. And Kmail moves all the spam to the trash automatically. I just have to decide on the questionable ones. I have found a couple of false positives but once Spamassassin is trained I will edit maildrop so spam goes to /dev/null and I don't have to look at it.

Then I installed Apache, moved my index.html into /var/www and I have my home page again. I forgot my background image so I used Firefox to find a new one on the web. The problem is when I right click on a pic and choose 'save image' nothing happens. I tired several different sites and no joy. So I fired up Konquerer and it worked fine for grabbing the image files. But when I went to Facebook and tried to add a comment nothing happened when I hit enter. A lot of people like to make fun of Microsoft in Linux forums but IE and Outlook have given me less trouble over the years than the Netscape spinoffs.

Frustrated I downloaded Opera.....deb, ran kpkg -i and am now using the Opera browser. Then I used apt-get to install BOINC and all I had to do was attach to the projects I do work for. Wanting to rest from my labors I looked for Freecell but found no games installed. Apt-get install kdegames solved that. I am very impressed with the way packages are installed, menu entries made and additions to the default startup scripts are taken care of.

I did notice that all users are in their own groups. I think idiots will still make their files world accessible but it isn't a major problem. I can always make special groups and put users in them. SUDO however is way to big a security problem to leave. Giving root access to all users just increases the chances of a weak password being exploited. And having to type your password 20 or 30 times in an hour encourages the use of 'fj' or 'ff' or the like. So I gave root a password, use the venerable Switch User command, and disabled sudo.

All in all, a job well done,

David Stites
Pullman, WA

BTW, does the donate button at the top of the page contribute to the total Ubuntu project or just the forums?

oshunluvr
Oct 26th 2011, 09:05 PM
I did notice that all users are in their own groups. I think idiots will still make their files world accessible but it isn't a major problem. I can always make special groups and put users in them. SUDO however is way to big a security problem to leave. Giving root access to all users just increases the chances of a weak password being exploited. And having to type your password 20 or 30 times in an hour encourages the use of 'fj' or 'ff' or the like. So I gave root a password, use the venerable Switch User command, and disabled sudo.

It took me awhile to get used to a individual groups thing. I have a true multiuser environment here and a need to allow group access to some server folders. No matter, I learned to use sticky-bits and correct mounting procedures. I wonder about your belief that allowing su is more secure than sudo. I believe the default install of Kubuntu only gives admin rights to the first user created. I suppose that repeated password entry could be considered less secure, but I don't find myself often needing repeated sudo access. When I know I will be doing multiple things over a short stretch, I use su -i.

I too find mozilla products tiresome and have switched to chrome. Anyway, welcome to the forum and Kubuntu.

dstites
Oct 26th 2011, 10:34 PM
OK, I skimmed the man page for sudo and it is not as bad as I thought. I still will use the standard su command most of the time but I reactivated sudo in case I just need to run one or two commands. I see you only have to enter the password once each 15 minutes. I have also downloaded Chrome and am giving it a try.

Have fun,
David