Kubuntu Install How to

[PDR60]

I put together a How-to for the beginer. Hope everyone likes it.

http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28

PDR60

[gregwalton]

This is just *EXCELLENT*! Thanks for all the work you've put in on this.

There are a couple of suggestions I'd make: there are a few typos ("Kububtu"?!); it would be helpful to explain that the "root password" is the one you set up during the install; it might also be helpful to explain briefly the concept of "root" and the use of "sudo/kdesu", but maybe you can't do everything.

I was also a bit surprised that you used both a console and the GUI to manage the reporsitories but when I thought about it... what a good way to show that either way does the job! Maybe you could point out that the GUI of "adept" can also be used to uncomment/enable the greyed out repositories and the console could be used to add new repositories (I think I'm correct in saying this?).

Personally I think it would be nice to show new users (Windoze converts) the GUI way first and then show how it can also be done in the CLI, but that's just a soapbox of mine.

Sorry to sound like I'm criticising, I still think this is a mint piece of work. Even as it is this should be given pride of place on the Kubuntu homepage IMHO. It's way better than the documentation I've had with many pieces of commercial software. I'll be using it to complete my install.

Thanks again!

[PDR60]

Thanks for the kind words. I try to get all the type-o's but sometimes one or two slip through. I tend to agree with about the command line . I think that what scares most users away from Linux in the first place. I like to try to show as much about the different ways of doing things in the gui and mix in a little command line to show what's really going on. I like the suggestions for the added info about root and sudo. I'll add it in.

Thanks,

PDR60

[PDR60]

I added some more content to this How-to. Its coming along nicely. I've still got some more to get up there, I just need to find some time.

http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28

PDR60

[PDR60]

I've added the Gaming configuration. I've had a bunch of folks request this so I added it to the install how-to. Only a few more things to add to this How-to and it will be through.

http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28&page=32

[PDR60]

I've also added the configuration of Quake 4 for Kubuntu. It plays real well and since it uses the Doom 3 engine, you can also load up Doom 3 the same way. I just got back from vacation and played the new Sin title that runs on the Half-life 2 engine last week. It ran great on the same config as for the Half-life 2 setup. Anyway here is the Quake 4 link.

http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28&page=39

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[PDR60]

I fanally finished the How-to. This time I added File sharing and VMware install and config. Its now 51 pages long and finished.
http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=28

PDR60

[gnarly]

Great HOWTO, for a newbie it is a huge help.
I do have a question though, I am tring to add "multiverse" to the "Components" line, as you suggested. Each time I try by selecting "Apply" it goes away. What am I doing wrong. Also I believe you indicate that there are six to change I only see 4 in my list.

[PDR60]

To get the option to change you have to hit enter after you type it in. If you have a sources.list file like the one in the example you should have 6 edits. Let me know how it turns out.

PDR60

[gnarly]

Thats great it worked fine. Yes my sources.list had 6 edits.
It's when I made the changes in the repositories (adding multiverse) that I only had 4 edits.
It seems to be working fine now.
I do appreciate your time and effort putting this HOWTO together, it really makes it more understandable for us newbies.

[MeeMaw]

Excellent How-To!
I, too, am a newbie and you did a great job of putting it in language that even a newbie can understand, and also explaining the terminal commands so we know what that is all about. Thanks for all your hard work! If anyone comes up with anything else they want to know about, I hope you will add it in.
;)

[oreo]

great how- to love the step by step setup. but for me i have a problem once it hits step 5 of 6. is says "You can have the installer automatically create space in various ways on any one of the following hard disks. Alternatively, you can partition the disks manually." and my cursor is in the loading circle and it sits there for hours. what should i do?

[varaahan]

Great HOWTO, for a newbie it is a huge help.
I do have a question though, I am tring to add "multiverse" to the "Components" line, as you suggested. Each time I try by selecting "Apply" it goes away. What am I doing wrong. Also I believe you indicate that there are six to change I only see 4 in my list.


GUIs are meant for easiness but this one method is the other way round.
It's quite simple with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and removing the hashes before "deb" and adding "multiverse" after "universe".

[bilzap]

Would it be appropriate to include a section on hardware requirements?
I just scanned your guide - perhaps I missed it.

[Coolio10]

Im not saying your base install is not complete but for people like me who are forced to keep windows you do not show a dualboot setup with grub during install and i was fighting between choosing mepis and kubuntu but i chose kubuntu because its run by more then 1 person and updates very frequently.

Also ive had experience from its oldschool versions where ive seen grub in an dualboot guide so if its not too much could you please include a dualboot install guide.

[immrlizard]

Thanks for all your work with this guide. I know that it takes a lot of time to get everything just right. This is exactly what needs to be done with everything dealing with linux. More people will venture into it if they can actually see that it isn't that much different then windows and that it isn't that difficult.

[sproot]

Thanks for all your work on this PDR60, I know how long stuff like this takes!

I don't know if it's because I'm doing things in the wrong order, but:

If you add the KDE repositories ( for adept - page 12ish) before using the scripted apt-get (for FF, GIMP &c - page 16) it fails with a missing public-key (at least for me!)

Also, apparently acroread isn't available anymore, it's acroread-debian-files, and I'm pretty certain the last line should be sudo apt-get update -flashplugin

That's where I'm up to, and it's going swimmingly well :)

Thanks again!

[DRAGONPOWER]

Woah PDR60, this is really nice work dude! Thankz man!* :D

5 Start Guide, I've been looking for a guide like this one, pretty much covers everything, it's great for newbies (like me) & not-so-much newbies too!* ;)

[askrieger]

@Coolio10: There is a very good description of a dual boot installation at http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/ . I reccomend it to everyone who can't kick the M$ habit.

[zanthar]

End of the year, and this guide is still going strong. I'll add another thanks for the work. ;D

[trash]

I was generally impressed with this guide in terms of introducing a beginner (i'm relatively new to Linux but well experienced in computing generally) to the operating system, but a few things did confuse me.

Is there a reason why (considering it's a beginners guide) you talked through a detailed partition set up rather then just letting Kubuntu allocate things using it's defaults, i can honestly say i've never bothered handling myself and haven't run into any problems.

One could argue when editing the sources.list file disabling the multiverse repositories might be a good idea. I realise that's alot to do with preference, but i've generally found my system more stable (only enabling multiverse when i specifically need an odd package not in the universe).

Flash 9.0 is actually available as a beta .deb install now - but is perfectly stable from my experience. It also might be worth going into how if a system installs with 16 bit color flash will crash (and how to alter the xorg.conf file to make their systems 24 bit).

I'm a little curious why you made no mention of Amarok since it's the supplied core media library / player for KDE. I can only think you're a die hard Winamp fan *smiles*.. I used to be a big fan myself but i admit it has since been blown out the water with iTunes, and since moving to Linux - Amarok. Even just from the point of view of it's tight integration with Konqueror it seems a large omission.

On that same note, no mention of KAudioCreator, maybe you've had problems with it?

Though your coverage of PC emulation was great, it may have been nice to mention some native Linux games software like Nexuiz.

I was also curious by your command to set the Quake 4 driver to OSS, i never had a problem with that on my Audigy - is it a wide spread issue?

I thought the install script part was a really good addition, i'll be making my own i think.

And finally well done with the Samba turtorial, i thought that part was great.

x trash x

[halw]

Good job.

Would like to see a section(s) on all linux file and printer sharing.

[pwc]

Hey pdr60, the Install How to is terrific! Any chance of you updating it to Edgy If (6.10)?

Thanks, pwc

[nevaziah]

Um, i cannot access the link somehow..

[PDR60]

I was going to do a 6.10 How-to but I think I'll just wait until 7.0x. Its going to be quite a release... I'll do it just like the 6.06...... with a few improvements. Since we are about a month away I'm getting pretty excited. I'll probably have it up within a couple of days of the release.

PDR60

[steven3428]

thanks for the guide ;D exactly what I've been looking for, but when i get to the page 8 and click fetch updates, it just goes to "waiting for headers (0%)" so i skipped it and yet again when i was at page 12 when i click fetch updates it just stays at waiting for headers (0%), I'm new to linux and don't have a clue whats going on, any help would be appreciated.

[PDR60]

Hmmm seems like you don't have an internet connection. If you would go to the site and post your system info like hardware setup, that would be a great help. I'll get you going and then you'll be ready to go. You can check your internet connection by going to the control center and checking the network. connections.

PDR60

[steven3428]

Hmmm seems like you don't have an internet connection. If you would go to the site and post your system info like hardware setup, that would be a great help. I'll get you going and then you'll be ready to go. You can check your internet connection by going to the control center and checking the network. connections.

PDR60

I finally got it working, the way I got it working was to use the sources.list file from the live cd on my install and it fetched repositories right away. Downloading the updates as I type ;D

that's the thing I posted that when i was in kubuntu? I'm on windows just now (dual booting using grub) but here are my specs ::

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
1GB Corsair Value DDR400
ASUS A8N SLi-Premium
Club 3D 7600GT
Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 80GB IDE

It's weird because I can access the websites with kubuntu just fine but I can't fetch updates or anything from the adept package manager or through the terminal :(

[Dedoimedo]

Hello,

Could this help you with dual boot?

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual_boot.html

Dedoimedo

[larry]

what size does the partion need to be to make it work

[integr8e]

According the Kubuntu review (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu) on Ubuntu's web site, you need a bare minimum of 3GB of available hard disk space (I would suggest at least 10GB), and according to the United States University of Minnesota Ubuntu Releases (North America) (http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/kubuntu/gutsy/) link on the Download (http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest) section of Kubuntu's web site, you need at least 320MB of RAM to install Gutsy.

[PDR60]

According the Kubuntu review (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu) on Ubuntu's web site, you need a bare minimum of 3GB of available hard disk space (I would suggest at least 10GB), and according to the United States University of Minnesota Ubuntu Releases (North America) (http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/kubuntu/gutsy/) link on the Download (http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest) section of Kubuntu's web site, you need at least 320MB of RAM to install Gutsy.


Thats the great thing about Linux. The choice is always in the installer's hands. I recommended the size I did for a normal workstation with the home directory in another partition. That gives the base install 5.0 GB of space. Thats more than enough. Even using you figures, you will have 2.0Gb left for additional apps to install and use. That's alot of space.

That being said, if you're going to install to a single partition you'll need lots more space then the 5.0 GB I alloted.

On the Ram part they are just wrong. I can run kubuntu on 64 MB of ram. Just don't run the GUI. I have an old dell 266MHz laptop I use for network scanning that runs Feisty just great with only 256MB of Ram including the GUI. On the other hand I have the machine I am typing this on and its has 2GB of ram. They both get the job done. Its a matter of choice and thats what Linux is all about......

PDR60

[dibl]

According the Kubuntu review (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu) on Ubuntu's web site, you need a bare minimum of 3GB of available hard disk space



With a clean, recent installation of Gutsy, my root filesystem is sitting at 3.5GB today, so I don't know how they're going to do it on 3.0GB. I once saw my Edgy system at 4.5GB (I cleaned it and it shrunk somewhat). :P