really horrendous upgrade this morning...

[wizard10000]

This morning's upgrades blew up both a 32-bit and 64-bit machine. Got the netbook fixed but had to go to work before I could get the desktop fixed so I just installed lxde on it and left for the office - I'll sort it out later.

I used muon to upgrade both machines, which in hindsight might not have been the best idea I ever had as I'm not sure it supports blocked updates - which may have been what caused the issue. Anyway, the 64-bit desktop was left with a prompt that said X couldn't find startkde, which was when I installed lxde, ran that to make sure it worked and went to the office.

So I get to the office and hook up the netbook. Netbook says 164 upgrades are available so I run that upgrade, and the new linux-headers-2.6.35.21-generic, the linux-headers-generic metapackage, man-db, samba and kdm all fail to install properly.

Ran "dpkg --configure -a" a couple times, deleted dpkg's lockfile once and rebooted once then the packages installed as they should and everything's working okay, but today was one scary update.

Also, the "general" font on the netbook keeps changing to Andale Mono 12 instead of the DejaVu Sans 9 that I've used for a year. The change takes but when I run konsole or sometimes just running systemsettings causes the general font to change.

Strange.

[3vi1]

That is weird.. I installed updates last night, and the new ones from this morning (a couple of hours back) without any issues.

[dibl]

I also ran updates last night (apt-get dist-upgrade) and it appeared to work flawlessly.

The default screen size bug remains, BTW. It comes up at 800x600, regardless of what I do to try to change it. This is on a VM -- I don't know whether that issue is related to running on a VM or is the same on a hard drive installation.

[3vi1]

The default screen size bug remains, BTW. It comes up at 800x600, regardless of what I do to try to change it. This is on a VM -- I don't know whether that issue is related to running on a VM or is the same on a hard drive installation.


That's most likely due to the VM host integration tools not properly supporting the new Xorg (yet). I see that with VirtualBox. There are already bugs in their tracker for it, so I'm hoping it will be fixed in their next release.

[dibl]

That's most likely due to the VM host integration tools not properly supporting the new Xorg (yet). I see that with VirtualBox. There are already bugs in their tracker for it, so I'm hoping it will be fixed in their next release.



Aha! Yes, that makes sense --- thanks 3vi1.

[Yuri sss]

I used muon to upgrade both machines, which in hindsight might not have been the best idea I ever had as I'm not sure it supports blocked updates - which may have been what caused the issue.


I don't think it supports blocked updates yet - it's still very new, and many features you'll e.g. find in Synaptic haven't been implemented as of yet. It also still needs some kinks worked out, so I wouldn't recommend it for full-time usage.

[wizard10000]

I don't think it supports blocked updates yet - it's still very new, and many features you'll e.g. find in Synaptic haven't been implemented as of yet. It also still needs some kinks worked out, so I wouldn't recommend it for full-time usage.


I'll bet I don't use it for a major upgrade again anytime soon ;D

Very nice program, though. I'll be glad when all the bugs are worked out.

[vinnywright]

I'm not on the maveric train yet........but I did use muon to do the set of upgrades that took me from KDE4.5.0 to 4.5.1........

muon had DL'd 50 or so of the 180 needed when we lost the Internet connection.
instead of aborting or asking to continue it just installed the ones it had managed to DL :o

neadless to say that left me with some sudo apt-get -f installing and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgradeing along with a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a in thare.

I do like muon and use it regularly but I think if it has a set of things to DL and cant get them all it should at least ask if it should continue to install if all of them don't DL .

I know apt-get would have ....not shure how synaptic would have handled that as it has never happend to me like that ;D

VINNY

[GreyGeek]

Just updated 274 files in my guest Maverick OS.
Had to do a couple of "sudo apt-get -f install" and a couple "dpkg --configure -a"'s to get things sorted out.

Like Snowhog, my video is trapped at 600x800 because of the Xorg incompatibility. When i try to reinstall it my screen turns into a giant pixelated ascii mess where I can make out magnified views of the Dolphin menu structure that I used to run the additions.

Seems to be running ok.

EDIT - 09/17/10
Just to bring this thread up to date. A few minutes after I finished that successful 274 file update, KPackageKit notifier told me that I had 254 packages ready to update. Running in a guest OS I let it do what I'd never let it do on my main system. When it was done and the reboot notification appeared, I rebooted the guest OS. I logged in and when the desktop began appearing it crashed and threw me back to the login screen... the login screen loop!

I did the usual recovery techniques but the login screen loop wouldn't go away. I wondered if the Maverick daily LiveCD had that problem. I burned the 9/15/10 daily on a CDROM and booted into it from my guestOS, and replaced the previous guestOS Maverick. When I rebooted it and attempted a login I discovered that it, too, had the login screen loop.

So, I am going to continue to try successive daily LiveCDs until one works, and then I continue testing the updates.

[wizard10000]

Fixed the desktop. kde-workspace-bin failed to install. Installed that and everything seems to work except that the font change I was seeing on the netbook is also happening on the desktop PC.

But - it works.

:)

[claydoh]

This is why I always recommend updating using apt-get when running development versions, up to the rc stage (http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112249.0) generally. Big updates can happen, which can lead to some mirrors not quite up to speed, and apt will give you more info that can help you decide to wait or not.

[wizard10000]

This is why I always recommend updating using apt-get when running development versions, up to the rc stage (http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112249.0) generally.


Yes, but discoveries are only made by not following instructions ;D

For today's updates I ran muon first just to see what it wanted to update and ran the update with apt. I really want muon to succeed, though.

When I got home from the office yesterday I decided to see if startkde was even on my system - it wasn't. A quick synaptic search showed that kde-workspace-bin wasn't installed - I ticked the box, hit the go button and everything straightened right out.

On a side note LXDE is rapidly becoming my favorite lightweight DE.

[Teunis]

Although I agree Muon looks better every day I'm also quite happy with the rarely mentioned Adept.

[ScottyK]

Ran the updates on 10.10 on my virtual machine last night. came up with over 360 updates.

I was dumb and used Kpackagekit to install them.

The interface was nice, but it definitely broke something.

Now when I try to log in, the screen flashes, I see some text, then goes back to the GUI logon screen.

or it will just sit there with "Ubuntu 10.10" on the screen and nothing more.

Should have taken the previous posters' advice about using the command line to upgrade.

How do I bypass the GUI so I can log on using the command line?

[wizard10000]

How do I bypass the GUI so I can log on using the command line?


Easiest way to do it is hit the red button on the kdm login screen and select console login - or you can select recovery mode from the grub menu.

[ScottyK]

Wizard - thanks for the tip!

X is still broken on this install, but since it's Beta I don't mind. I'm sure the next round of upgrades will fix it.

[kyonides]

How do I bypass the GUI so I can log on using the command line?


Easiest way to do it is hit the red button on the kdm login screen and select console login - or you can select recovery mode from the grub menu.
Yeah, normally that should work but with 10.10 I never could make it work until recently, but I gotta try it once again now that I updated the system yesterday...

[wizard10000]

Wizard - thanks for the tip!

X is still broken on this install, but since it's Beta I don't mind. I'm sure the next round of upgrades will fix it.


KDE is still a little broken here. Yesterday's updates got me a shiny new error message - I didn't start this bug but I had to sign on to it ;)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/640912

It's just an irritation, but I get an error on KDE start and the device notifier on the panel doesn't work any more but they'll get it fixed.

[GreyGeek]

I just finished installing and testing today's Maverick daily LiveCD.

It's still broken. Fresh "out of the box", on the first boot up of the desktop, the login screen loop appears.

In addition, the is a kdeinit4 error, and, the GPG keys to one of the repositories is missing and part of the updates can't install.

Will try the next one tomorrow.

[claydoh]

If you like trying daily builds, zsync is a great tool that saves a lot of bandwidth as it downloads only the changes from the image on your drive.

run this in the dir you have your iso in:

zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
or

zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.iso.zsync

[verndog]

I just finished installing and testing today's Maverick daily LiveCD.

It's still broken. Fresh "out of the box", on the first boot up of the desktop, the login screen loop appears.

In addition, the is a kdeinit4 error, and, the GPG keys to one of the repositories is missing and part of the updates can't install.

Will try the next one tomorrow.
Good to know, I'm not alone. I kept waiting to see if anyone else reported this. I have the exact same issues, using nvidia video card. Maybe ATI's don't experience this.

In regards to claydoh's zsync message below. That's all I use. I never update until after the final release.

I also noticed that while Ubuntu's zsync's have been quite large, Kubuntu's have not. Until today. 30% increase for just todays alone.

[wizard10000]

In addition, the is a kdeinit4 error...


That's the error I bugged above. Both 32- and 64-bit machines are doing it.

[verndog]

In addition, the is a kdeinit4 error...


That's the error I bugged above. Both 32- and 64-bit machines are doing it.
I "me too" the bug report. thanks.

[GreyGeek]

Thanks, Claydoh, that zsync works nice.

I decided to go back to the 9/8/10 daily livecd and reinstall it and then to the apt-get upgrade, like I did before, which worked OK. Well, it didn't work OK this time. Instead of 274 files there were 304 files, and when I was done I was presented with the login screen loop again.

I messed around with the error msgs. It said it couldn't find ~/.config/ibus/bus, so I created it and that msg went away, but I got another: "/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket : Connection refused.", but the messagbus group exists.

The X app is still segfaulting.

[kyonides]

I voted for that bug, it couldn't be worse than voting for a politician ;D

BTW I think the login loop is present in KDE 4.5.1 not Kubuntu since I installed Arch Linux and it gets me back to the login screen after applying system changes or hitting OK button after forcing the windows to stay maximized. That's exactly what happens in Mave...

[Yuri sss]

KDE is still a little broken here. Yesterday's updates got me a shiny new error message - I didn't start this bug but I had to sign on to it ;)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/640912

It's just an irritation, but I get an error on KDE start and the device notifier on the panel doesn't work any more but they'll get it fixed.


Updated just yesterday evening, but never had this kde4init bug happen to me.

[claydoh]

I update daily (at least) and have not seen his one. I wonder if trying out the beta release instead of the daily would help here?

[Aries K]

Any update on this? I have held off doing updates until I know this is fixed. I had this happen to me and just re-installed the beta.

[ScottyK]

Still broken on my end. Logged in using the console, and found 25 updates over the past two days. when I try to start the GUI and I enter user/pass, I get "Ubuntu 10.10", two dots out of four and that's it. Will try again later.

Edit: I'm running the 32-bit version, haven't tried the 64-bit version yet.

[Fintan]

I updated to day and got a sweet ??? :P mix of kde-netbook and kde4.5.1 desktop:
http://www.fintan-gastro-consulting.ch/DesktopMaverick.png

sound is completely borked.

[Aries K]

Whoa, after looking at of all that I think I will hold off updating for a little while longer hehe.

[dibl]

After reading the horror stories here, I also held off for a few days. I just now ran
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and here's what I saw:


dibl@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
kubuntu-desktop
The following packages will be upgraded:
binutils chromium-browser chromium-browser-inspector ffmpeg initramfs-tools
initramfs-tools-bin kde-window-manager kdebase-workspace
kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data
kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdm kinfocenter klipper ksysguard
ksysguardd libavdevice52 libavfilter1 libavformat52 libffi5 libkdecorations4
libkephal4 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libkwineffects1a
libkworkspace4 libmagickcore3 libmagickwand3
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasmaclock4b libplasmagenericshell4
libpostproc51 libprocesscore4a libprocessui4a libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer
libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script
libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg
libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4
libsolidcontrol4a libsolidcontrolifaces4 libswscale0 libtaskmanager4a
libweather-ion4a libx264-98 plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-widgets-workspace
python-httplib2 systemsettings
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I finished it, and I can now report, with guilty pleasure, that I'm playing youtube videos while verifying the java version at http://www.javatester.org/version.html

I dunno -- it seems flawless. I think you guys aren't living right, or something. ;D

[wizard10000]

Okay, I know for sure that muon doesn't respect blocked updates now - at least it didn't today. muon just offered me ten updates while apt offered me nine and blocked libavformat-extra-52.

edit: Also, today's bluedevil update fixed my kdeinit4 crash. Things work pretty fast - I got an email on the bug this morning saying "fix committed" and now it's fixed :D

[ScottyK]

I continued to have trouble with my VM copy of 10.10, so I decided to start new and install it again and see what would happen.

After the install, I skipped the Kpackagekit route and went straight the command line.

apt-get downloaded 399 updates, and another 6 after reboot.

But the login errors are gone, and (so far) everything is working.

[Fintan]

Did a dist-upgrade to day and deleted .kde. behaving again :)

[GreyGeek]

Last night I did a normal apt-get update & dist-upgrade on my Maverick guest OS and I got my mojo ... errr .. desktop back!

I noticed a peculiarity though. When the desktop loading splash screen displays the stages of loading it appears to crash once and then quickly restarts where it left off. The desktop display. I am able to install the VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run with the exception that it could not install the X server additions because it didn't recognize the xserver. So, I am still stuck on 800x600.

[verndog]

Using todays daily-live fixed my issues. I no longer get the gui-loop or the init4 error.

[kyonides]

I upgraded it today and I still have the same issues I had before the upgrade plus I can't open System Settings or if it ever opens, I can't click on any option because it crashes at once...

[ScottyK]

Is anybody using 10.10 in a VM Workstation environment? I can't get the screen to go any bigger than 800x600. If I resize it, when I reboot, it defaults back to 800x600.

I've got the VMtools installed.

Other than that, it's running pretty smoothly in a VM environment.