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13thSlayer
Sep 9th 2009, 02:33 PM
Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
Post questions regarding Hardy Heron, the current release version of Kubuntu
No, it is not... Current is 9.04.
dibl
Sep 9th 2009, 02:36 PM
For 8.04, it should say "the current LTS version", to be correct. :)
Telengard
Sep 9th 2009, 02:47 PM
I could not agree with this more. The current LTS should always be identified with LTS. Otherwise people who download the latest Koala will think they are getting the "LaTeSt" version.
Snowhog
Sep 9th 2009, 03:04 PM
Title for the board Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron has been 'corrected.'
Thank you.
kubicle
Sep 11th 2009, 05:57 AM
Err...kubuntu 8.04 is LTS now?
I thought the whole kubuntu (KDE) wasn't LTS even though the ubuntu parts are.
Fintan
Sep 11th 2009, 06:05 AM
I thought the whole kubuntu (KDE) wasn't LTS even though the ubuntu parts are.
ASFAIK Heron was the last kubuntu LTS for now.
I believe the kubuntu gods decided to defer the next kubuntu LTS until kde4.x.x is as stable as kde3.x.x was (is).
kubicle
Sep 11th 2009, 06:30 AM
I thought the whole kubuntu (KDE) wasn't LTS even though the ubuntu parts are.
ASFAIK Heron was the last kubuntu LTS for now.
Well it wasn't tagged LTS when released (I'd like to know if that has changed, though)
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu
I believe the kubuntu gods decided to defer the next kubuntu LTS until kde4.x.x is as stable as kde3.x.x was (is).
I'm pretty sure the next ubuntu LTS release will also be a kubuntu LTS release, possibly 10.04 (if they keep the 2 year intervals between LTS releases)
Fintan
Sep 11th 2009, 06:47 AM
Well it wasn't tagged LTS when released (I'd like to know if that has changed, though)
You are right.
Now, I am not sure if kubuntu heron is really LTS. I doubt it was changed retroactively.
Snowhog
Sep 11th 2009, 07:33 PM
Well, Canonical says it's LTS:
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition Released (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop)
Official Ubuntu Documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/)
I didn't change the board title without checking first.
kubicle
Sep 11th 2009, 08:14 PM
Well, Canonical says it's LTS:
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition Released (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop)
Official Ubuntu Documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/)
I didn't change the board title without checking first.
The problem is that while ubuntu (with gnome) is LTS, kubuntu (with kde) isn't.
Of course the parts that kubuntu shares with ubuntu get the longer support, but not kde3 (or kde4 in hardy)
Snowhog
Sep 11th 2009, 08:16 PM
Ahh. Well, then I guess the title gets to be changed back.
Thanks kubicle!
dibl
Sep 11th 2009, 08:18 PM
The problem is that while ubuntu (with gnome) is LTS, kubuntu (with kde) isn't.
Of course the parts that kubuntu shares with ubuntu get the longer support, but not kde3 (or kde4 in hardy)
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Does that make it "Semi-LTS", I wonder? :D
Telengard
Sep 12th 2009, 12:41 AM
Stop confusing the issue. As I read the OP, this thread concerns whether or not Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron is the latest release of Kubuntu. How can say that it is unless you do not consider Intrepid and Jaunty to be releases?
The issue of whether or not Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron is an official LTS is seperate. The fact that I have never had clarity on this is very annoying, and thus I say that official LTS releases should always be clearly marked as such. It makes a huge difference to me and anyone else who does not want the bleeding edge (like Intrepid) releases for their main computer.
claydoh
Sep 14th 2009, 02:16 AM
It isn't very clear, and that is Canonical's fault; the Kubuntu team had no input on this issue whatsoever.
To clarify, if it is possible: the Kubuntu bits are not long term support - and long term support only means security fixes, nothing else. Nothing about bug fixes, etc
but the non-kde bits, the kernel, drivers, xorg, etc are LTS
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